seantx

Guys, guys.
I appreciate (SERIOUSLY) the gesture, but I'm okay with the deal now. Been playing with it for the last day and am in looooove. True, the deal is not how it was presented, but I got a sweet X5 Advanced - there isn't a mark on this thing and he left several programs installed - for $150 delivered. He misled in his auction but I pressed the issue and he made things right - at least to my liking.
I'm completely sincere when I say I'm happy with the deal. If he hadn't ponied up the refund then he would have the wrath of eBay, Paypal and worst of all the aximsite.com krew up in his a$$. :) I'm glad I have this thing and am REALLY glad to find this site!

Chris Leckness

OK.... I am satified now if you are..... Case Closed.

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CBombC

Post his financial info here to teach him a lesson!
:D
Then send him a link to it.
I bet he would soil himself pretty quickly!
That would be worth the $20 you are out!

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seantx

Heh. Hardcore man.

It's better than you think. This guy was some sort of free-style accounting type. I have fiscal info on some of his clients as well.

Good thing I'm not an a$$hole.

daniel501

On eBay "All sales final" and "As is" mean absolutely nothing if the seller has misrepresented the item. Don't let a seller tell you otherwise.

That said, if an apparently perfect item is being sold "as is" or "all sales final" that should serve as a red flag and should prompt you to ask the seller some questions.

gbm85

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Originally posted by daniel501 if an ... item is being sold "as is" or "all sales final"

What most people don't realize is that unless the seller specifically says "guarantee" or "warranty," the item is being sold as-is. Most sellers will say "as-is" but this is just a courtesy; it's not required.

daniel501

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Originally posted by gbm85 What most people don't realize is that unless the seller specifically says "guarantee" or "warranty," the item is being sold as-is. Most sellers will say "as-is" but this is just a courtesy; it's not required.

I disagree. The "is" part of "as-is" depends on the seller's description. Clearly I can't inspect the object. If the seller is lying or even merely mistaken, "as-is" means nothing.

In other words, if the "is" ain't, then all bets are off.

eBay expects sellers to provide an accurate description, and "all sales final" and "as-is" don't protect the seller from misrepresentation.

All that said, it can still be a hassle if you buy a misrepresented item from a seller who maintains that "all sales are final."

I'd just as soon avoid the hassle.

I've been there before, having purchased a $100 item on eBay that the seller had lied about. He also said "all sales final." It took me months of working with eBay but I finally got my money back from the guy. I invested way more than $100 worth of my time and effort in order to do it, had meticulously documented my side of the case, but it still took me months. I'd never do it again, but this guy pissed me off and it became a matter of principle.

gbm85

No, you don't disagree. I never said that "as-is" protected the seller from any mistakes or lies in the description. All I said is that unless the seller specifically guarantees the item, or provides a warranty, the item is being sold "as-is."

daniel501

You're absolutely correct.