State lawmakers in Alabama are proposing a bill to cut funding that would rid libraries and communities of books and plays with homosexual characters or themes.
Now, before this thread turns into a Christian debate, I'm posting this because I'm not sure how a state's legislature can propose such a direct violation of the 1st amendment. Regardless of whether one believes homosexuality is a choice or if it's genetic, or whether it's for them or whether it's a sin... removal of literature with gay characters is a ridiculous idea. Just think of the debates that could go on in regards to which characters are gay and which are questionable and which are not, etc...
Does anybody else find this absolutely ridiculous?
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Ridiculous? Yes. Surprising? Only if you forget that we are living in a Christian theocracy. How can a state legislature do it? They are afraid that their primarily Christian constituency won't reelect them if they don't do it. Unfortunately, they are probably right to think this. It may be a clear violation of the 1st amendment, but if they can stack the courts with some more Christian judges, it won't matter.
I always viewed Jesus as a shining example of tolerance and compassion. Sadly, the evangelical Christians have chosen to ignore that message and morph Christianity into a tool of intolerance and contempt for anyone who rejects their particular brand of belief.
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I'm just um, not going to say anything about Alabama, because the Admin sorta hails from Alabama.
I will say however that this banning is absolutly ridiculous, just horrible really and I don't like it at all.
Speaking of which, a bill was put forward today concerning legalizing gay marriage. Just saying that perhaps anybody interested in that sorta thing should check out www.cbc.ca for news concerning that sorta thing.
um...
wasn't this country founded on "separation of church and state"?
i thought we escaped this kind of tyranny 200+ years ago
Actually, "separation of church and state" refers to the government not making any laws in regards to state-instituted religion...
I also don't see it as being a violation of the First Amendment, as that merely gurantees that a person can say what they want to... it says nothing about the government *funding* the speech... nor does it provide protection for those who say stupid things and get sued for libel.
Might be a violation of 'equal opportunity' laws - I know here in Canada it would fail on the grounds of discrimination....
why is it that any tyme anyone does anything like this it is automatically the christians fault? Athiest can be anti-homosexual too you know. Kill the Christian bashing.
why is it that any tyme anyone does anything like this it is automatically the christians fault? Athiest can be anti-homosexual too you know. Kill the Christian bashing.
Good point. But how many atheists are there in congress passing these laws?
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Back to the original posting regarding the baning of the "gay" themes all I can say is "shades of Farenhite 451"....once you start banning any one thing or idea its a start to other things falling out of favor and then the banning really gets started.......I have always said that if your not offending at least someone in a group then your in the wrong group....We are, at least in the USA, an independent minded people and we, as citizens, have to stand for something that we believe ..... ( I got on my soapbox and wrote about 10 more lines of ranting but on second reading erased it......) After all we can bitch about the dark or try to find a way to turn on the light.....think about it....
that doesn't mean that everybody in Congress in Christian.
Reese raises a very valid point, but I beileive it was not cloud's intention to make it seem like everybody in Congress was Christian. Technically it was just a statement to subvert any theological debate over homosexuality.
Living in Alabama most of my life, I can say that this will likely never get passed. I heard about it a few months ago from a college professor of mine, and she informed us of the idiocracy of this thing. Under this, they are even trying to ban Shakespeare, just because he often dealt with homosexuality in his plays. That's just stupid. The state offices have already been flooded with letters from Alabama citizens stating that this should not be passed, so I would be shocked it if ever made it all the way through.
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