The prosecution had every advantage to prove Jackson's guilt:
1. Complete shock and awe style search of the residence by an army of police.
2. Thousands of children have visited the ranch, and if molestation was a pattern, they could have found more credible witnesses.
3. Immense resources were poured into the prosecution side of the case, including access to documents and computer networks the defense, no matter how well financed, never has.[2] Prosecution is not balanced, it's goal is not to seek justice. It's goal is to convict. It has been proven time and again that prosecutions regularly suppress exculpatory evidence that they have uncovered, and when they are caught at it, the convictions are often overturned. There is no way to know how often this happens, or what percentage of the time they are caught. But my money would favor them not getting caught very often unless there is a disgruntled employee in their office.
4. The general predisposition of the public to trust the police and the state.
5. No black jurors.
6. A general predisposition among most people to believe that Michael Jackson is a weirdo.
7. People want to believe that all children are innocent, instead of believing they're the little lying assholes that they really are. I was one when I was a kid, and so was nearly every other kid I knew. We always lied about something. And I think that every kid has been involved in a conspiracy to back up a parent's "white lie".
8. Even though Jackson is a celebrity, the media feed on salacious evidence and always favor the prosecution. This case was no different.
9. The family of the child involved showed up to the police with an attorney[1]
Despite all this, the jury saw through what was essentially an evidence-less case: no physical evidence, no direct witnesses, and only the testimony of a child whose family had lied previously for monatary gain. If the prosecution, with all their advantages, couldn't win the case, then the case was weak. And with all the money that Jackson spent on his attorneys, it's a fair bet that the state spent as much or more, and at a steep discount (cops are cheaper than private investigators, and DAs, Deputy DAs and their office staff are far cheaper than their defense counterparts).
[1] Any time a victim without money shows up at a police station with an attorney in tow to file charges, there's something fishy going on. It is most suspicious. Attorneys are not known for their generosity, and are known for going where the money can be found. It is fair to be suspicious of the motivations of the councel in this case. He was gambling that there was money to be made in the end.
[2] An attorney can save a lot of money in private investigators and get the prosecution to do their work for them by filing criminal charges. A criminal conviction gives them a slam dunk in civil court. Even without a criminal conviction, evidence is unearthed which no private attorney or private investigator working legally can match. Stay tuned for the civil case, if their lawyer still think he can convince 9 out of 12 jurors. Civil cases do not carry the "reasonable doubt" standard.
7. People want to believe that all children are innocent, instead of believing they're the little lying assholes that they really are. I was one when I was a kid, and so was nearly every other kid I knew. We always lied about something. And I think that every kid has been involved in a conspiracy to back up a parent's "white lie".
I truly hope this is neither your belief, nor your youth & upbringing.
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[2] An attorney can save a lot of money in private investigators and get the prosecution to do their work for them by filing criminal charges. A criminal conviction gives them a slam dunk in civil court. Even without a criminal conviction, evidence is unearthed which no private attorney or private investigator working legally can match.
I'm a bit lost here on many levels. There is no "[2]" from which this flows, it starts off making no sense and leaves me quite perplexed as to just what it is you're trying to say.
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Stay tuned for the civil case, if their lawyer still think he can convince 9 out of 12 jurors. Civil cases do not carry the "reasonable doubt" standard
This does make sense, but remember; OJ is still playing golf.
And I'd be willing to bet that Michael Jackson has a Number One Album within Five years. So what...he's a free man with millions of Fans around the world just wating to show their support and revel in their vindication by making this a Done Deal.
A civil suit will have no major impact on Michael Jackson, whatsoever, because the only people who really care about this mess anymore are his Fans....and they are there to support him.
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If you have the money i guess you can buy anything .He was charge with this ten year ago and now it come up again there is a problem somewhere . Let see what happen in ten more year
And some seem to forget that the media always try to go for sensationalism and at the same time give twisted information to the public. If they were talking and writing only about the kids the paper and rating would be down so they give you only what is selling.
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I truly hope this is neither your belief, nor your youth & upbringing.
This is my memory and experience. Unless they're very unusual, there are few children who haven't lied about something. To adults, to friends, to someone. And if their parents put them up to it, they'll lie to people in positions of authority.
It's not my belief. Children don't have the rights of adults because they haven't yet completely learned the difference between right and wrong, truth and falsehood, their consciences aren't fully develeoped, and they haven't learned full adult responsibility. They are given vastly softer sentences when convicted for crimes because of this.
Many won't hesitate to lie for even the mildest gain: a cookie, escaping blame for damage to a household item or to gain favor with parents for the best possible presents for Christmas, attempts to gain a better social position in the absolutely vicious and cruel world of childhood social hierarchies.
So I would be extremely hesitant to convict any adult based on the word of a child alone. It's too easy to make a heinous, unfounded accusation that can ruin someone's life. The evidence would have to be very solid indeed, and it would have to be larger than the word of a child or disgruntled employees.
The flip side is that many a child has been traumatized by relatives or people in positions of authority that have molested them: as in child rape. That's a different situation, where there is unquestionably physical evidence. This is not a case that is remotely similar.
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I'm a bit lost here on many levels. There is no "[2]" from which this flows, it starts off making no sense and leaves me quite perplexed as to just what it is you're trying to say.
Are you unaware that the child "victim" and his family showed up at the police with an attorney to make the original accusation?
If you were unaware of it, it is quite common for people to file a civil suit against a "deep pockets" adversary immediately following a criminal trial. Evidence used in a criminal trial can be used in a civil case.
Lawyers don't work for free. Most of the time, they won't work unless a very substantial retainer has been paid. In the Los Angeles area, this price starts at $5,000.
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This does make sense, but remember; OJ is still playing golf.
Everything you know about the OJ case you learned from a prosecution and police that singled him out from the start. There were some very suspicious bits of evidence used against him, and nothing that reliably tied him to the scene of the crime. On top of it, you had a primary police investigator who lied to a court of law, and was proven to do so.
That same primary investigator had aspirations of being a writer, and had serious motivations for securing a conviction against OJ.
Considering the corruption in the LAPD, and the LAPD's numerous coverups of their own officers, as well as a "code of silence" that ruins careers of whistle blowers, it is reasonable to distrust the department when perjury is proven during the case in relation to the primary investigator.
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And I'd be willing to bet that Michael Jackson has a Number One Album within Five years. So what...he's a free man with millions of Fans around the world just wating to show their support and revel in their vindication by making this a Done Deal.
I think his hitmaking days are past. But you could be right. I'd never bet against the public's bad taste. I can't figure out why he has fans at all.
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A civil suit will have no major impact on Michael Jackson, whatsoever, because the only people who really care about this mess anymore are his Fans....and they are there to support him.
Obviously, you've never had any encounter with the legal system. It's always a nightmare. Even a civil suit. You can bet that such a suit would be pursued by the media who will once again have the opportunity to try and hang him.
I hope your only encounter with the justice system is jury duty. Which gives you a little insight into the way the system really works. But if you ever find yourself on either end of bitter litigation or heavens forbid, on the other side of the sights of some overzealous prosecutor, you'll have a much better understanding of how the system works and a much healthier cynicism towards everything you hear in cases like this.
i personally think that MJ needs to be locked up in a max security prison. he has just stoped maturing. he is a 4 year old in a god kows how old body. he is a threat to socity.
If you have the money i guess you can buy anything .He was charge with this ten year ago and now it come up again there is a problem somewhere . Let see what happen in ten more year
That first case should have been a wake up call. It's easy to see why someone would pay someone off if they had the money, rather than go through what Jackson did with this case.
Jackson should have realized that with his riches, he'd always be an easy target for a shakedown, because society doesn't like adults socializing with kids on their level. It always looks suspicious. It doesn't matter how nice you are to people, a stranger cannot treat another stranger's child as if that child were his own.
I'm shocked that organizations like "Big Brothers" still exist. Or "Big Sisters". The people who are donating their time, money and energy to helping children are leaving themselves exposed any time they are alone with any child without witnesses. Given today's legal climate, I'm anxious about just giving candy to strange children during Halloween.
There may be some truth that "if you have money, you can buy anything." You can certainly afford a defense that has resources equal to the government's, which most people don't. Check out this site: http://www.innocenceproject.org/
People are wrongly convicted all the time because they have inadequate counsel, which is no match for the resources and automatic credibility of the prosecution and the police.
On the other hand if you have money, you make a very tempting target for extortion and litigation. Jackson has done everything he can to make himself an easy target, and he's surrounded himself with people who refuse to convince him otherwise.
If he were the least bit wise, which I think he's not since he's utterly nuts and no one he trusts will tell him so, if he wanted to help children he should use his resources to support "Make A Wish" and various children's hospitals. Who would do a lot better than a private theme park.
i personally think that MJ needs to be locked up in a max security prison. he has just stoped maturing. he is a 4 year old in a god kows how old body. he is a threat to socity.
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If we lock people up for acting like kids, shall we lock up people who cannot spell too? :)