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05-13-03, 10:11 PM
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MA701 Newbie
Forgive me if I sound like I'm looking for cheap answers, but I've perused this site pretty thoroughly since this AM. I received my Axim this morning, got it running, syncing, then figured to try setting up my new Netgear MA701. I followed Netgear instructions the best I could. When it came time to Ping, it seemed like it was Pinging flawlessly, 1-3 ms for ~1057 bit. Problem is I can't seem to surf, access email, etc. I'm guessing either I followed the directions poorly or maybe my Router isn't set up for it. I currently have Cable with an MS Router connected to my PC with my wife's PC wirelessly connected in the other room. Never had any problems with either of them. I've read tons of problems using this CF Lan card with Axims with conflicting reports on how to fix the problem. Is there a definitive solution and maybe more importantly is there a true step by step guide on setting up my Axim from scratch to work with this card (the more detail the better seeing as how I had to use MS Help to find my IP address!!). Oh, and just since this is my first post doesn't mean I'm gonna take the info and run... I'm an Axim owner now so I'm here to stay...
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05-14-03, 10:16 AM
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My work place just got one of those cards to share between me and my supervisor.
I had to go into connections and set them both to work in order for it to go out and get to the internet.
Hope that helps and welcome to Aximsite.
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05-14-03, 11:33 AM
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Sorry, I don’t have the Netgear card but maybe I can point you to some possible solutions. First, as Therigwin suggests, change all your connection settings (Settings, Connection tab, Connections) to Work settings, Work settings, Work.
I assume your router is using DHCP for assigning IPs. If so, check your network adapter setting (Settings, Connection tab, Network Adapters, select your Netgear and tap on properties) and make sure the top box is checked. If your router is not set for DHCP, check the second box and set the IP numbers. In either case, you can enter DNS IP numbers under the Name Servers if your ISP has provided them.
Is your router set for WEP encryption, and/or MAC filtering? If the first is true, you’ll need to set the same encryption code on the Netgear drivers on the Axim. You also should enter the SSID (your network name) on these drivers. If the MAC filtering is enabled, you’ll need to get into the Router’s settings and enter the MAC address for your Netgear card.
I hope this is of some help.
[Note, for the best security, you should actually be using WEP encryption and MAC filtering if you are not already but let’s getting you working first then you can read through the first thread on this forum for those details.]
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05-14-03, 12:44 PM
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First off, thank you both for your prompt reply's.
Second, my router is using DHCP.
Thirdly, it's also using WEP and MAC filtering. Only thing now is, I can't figure out how/where to adjust these on my Axim. As for my SSID it actually appeared on my axim when I first put my CF card in. Again, thanks for your help,
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05-14-03, 06:07 PM
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try taking off the WEP settings on your router.
I have had little success with WEP and the netgear card at home, with no settings for WEP(disabled) I know its not secure... works fine at works with cisco AP and wep no go even with a hardcoded IP address at work, it sees the AP but can't or won't pick up an IP address.
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05-14-03, 06:55 PM
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I also have the Netgear 701 card, MS wireless router and cable. I have never been able to get it to work with WEP enabled. With WEP disabled, I can connect OK (although I have to do so using a sniffer program (WINC) for reasons I have never been able to figure out. There are a couple of other programs -- VXutil and vxipconfig -- both free --that I remember were helpful in dealing with connection issues initially. You can propbably get a hold of them by doping a search in the forums.
Good Luck!
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05-14-03, 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by bsipe9
... I can't figure out how/where to adjust these on my Axim. ...
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For enabling WEP, somewhere on the Axim (probably under settings but possibly under programs) there will be a MA701 Configuration Utility – tap on it to open.
Tap on the Security tab at the bottom,
Change ‘disabled’ to 128-bit (or 64 if that’s what you are using)
If you created the WEP key with a passphrase in the MS router, do not be surprised if the password does not work. This may be why chuckconnor and captpg have had trouble. I’ve found using equipment from two manufacturer’s, the same password does not create the same encryption key. This gives you two choices, make up the key with 26 hexadecimal characters (these are the numbers 0 to 9 and letters a to f) or let one piece of equipment create the key from a password and then enter the resulting hexadecimal in the other. My router shows me what key is created so I do it this way.
For the MAC filtering, you need to change the router’s settings to accept the CF card’s MAC address. My card has the MAC address printed on the back of the card. If yours doesn’t, you can find it on the Status page in the MA701 Configuration Utility on the Axim. To add the CF card to the router, open the Base Station Management Tool (Broadband Network Utility, on the Tools menu) and open Security from the menu and select MAC filtering. Add the CF card’s number to the list.
Once you’ve got these settings finished on the router and the Axim, do a soft reset and you should be up and running.
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05-14-03, 10:09 PM
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Okay, let me first get down from the total elation I'm feeling 'cause it's working. Whew... okay now I finally got it to work with Work under all 3 settings and with WEP diasabled. That being said I live in a neighborhood surrounded by by either 80 year olds or people as poor as me (but who spend their money on more typical necessities{broadband is more important to me than TV}) so I'm seriously doubting there is another broadband user within half a mile, and even if there is one or two the likelyhood that they'd have wireless as well is mind-boggling. With all that, is it still 100% necessary for me to have WEP and MAC filtering? I'm not saying I've given up on trying to get it to work, I'm just wondering if I can continue to use my Axim wirelessly until I finally figure out the magic setup. And again, thank you all for your help,
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05-14-03, 10:18 PM
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Just make sure if you have shared folders that they are password protected. You can read the discussion on war walking for a fairly intense discussion about people that might be trying to get onto your system but my feeling is, even if someone comes across your network, the most likely thing they will do is use your internet connection.
On the third page of the above thread you'll see a fairly extensive post that I made. At the bottom of it, you'll why I use the security features.
In the meanwhile, enjoy your WiFi (at least until someone comes up with some doomsday scenario that will cause you to shut it down).
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05-15-03, 01:26 AM
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Thanks again Ike! After reading that thread I tried again and finally got it working with both WEP and MAC filtering. Only thing I cannot figure out now is how to prevent my SSID from being broadcast. I searched every nook and cranny of the Broadband Network Utility with no luck.
Oh, and aggree completely with your thoughts on War Walking... and I'm just a young pup of 26 :)
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05-15-03, 10:09 AM
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Glad to hear you got it to work with WEP enabled. Could you tell me how you did it? I will be disappointed if was simply by manual entry of the key as suggested by ikehiker cause I had tried that perviously without success!
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05-15-03, 11:51 AM
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Okay, starting from scratch (did a hard reset just to be sure... it was a brand new Axim so very little info anyhow)...
On the PC: Broadband Network Utility-Tools-Base Station Management Tools-Wireless: Make sure wireless access is enabled, changed channel to 11 since that is the default on my Netgear card.
Then under Security, then Wireless Security: I used 64 bit encryption then made up my own 10 digit key.
Then under Security, then MAC filtering: Check the box for enable association and allow, then manual enter the 12 digit MAC Address found on the back of your Netgear card and be sure to click the 'allow association'.
On the Axim: Settings-Connections: Set all three to Work.
Settings-Network Adapters-Netgear-Properties: Use server assigned IP address.
Programs-MA701-Configuration: Mode set to Infrastructure, SSID matched to my network.
Programs-MA701-Security: Set encryption to same bit as you set on your Base Station. Then manual Entry the 10 digit Key you chose above. Not wanting to beat around the bush, I entered the code into all four, but I believe you can get away with just Key 1.
I'm pretty sure that was everything. I hope I was a help to you and others like so many have been a help to me. This is the goal of these forums right? The passing on of knowledge from one to another is a wonderful thing...
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