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Old 04-24-06, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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is WEP with 128 bit 26 hex key supported?

Hi, does anyone have experience with adding an Axim to an open network with WEP 128 bit encryption and a 26 hex key? Axim x51v as best I can see only has a 20 character field to input the WEP key. Since I have many other devices already setup on 128 bit, don't want to downgrade to 64 bit if at all possible. TIA.
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Old 04-25-06, 12:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mschoe
Hi, does anyone have experience with adding an Axim to an open network with WEP 128 bit encryption and a 26 hex key? Axim x51v as best I can see only has a 20 character field to input the WEP key. Since I have many other devices already setup on 128 bit, don't want to downgrade to 64 bit if at all possible. TIA.
I use my X51v and WEP with 128 bit encryption, no problems here. Just enter your key and you're set.
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128 bit WEP is really no more secure than 64 bit WEP. I'd be tempted to use 64 bit WEP just because it's less characters to type. :)
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I have found, especially on my x50v, that 64bit Wep is considerably faster than 128bit.
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wep is useless, if this is your own wireless network switch to WPA, use a 20+ character key with upper/lower case password as well as special characters.

if you want people to get on your network use 64wep cuz it is actaully faster. or just dont have wep at all. just leave it wide open for maximum speed.
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Originally Posted by pr5owner
wep is useless, if this is your own wireless network switch to WPA, use a 20+ character key with upper/lower case password as well as special characters.
Can you elaborate on why wep is useless?

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if you want people to get on your network use 64wep cuz it is actaully faster. or just dont have wep at all. just leave it wide open for maximum speed.
This sounds reckless, as far as leaving it open. But you make it sound as if it doesn't work in 128.
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He's (rightly) suggesting that WEP is trivial to break. Whether it's 128 or 64 really makes no difference and if the speed with 64 bit WEP is higher than 128 bit WEP you may as well use 64.

The second comment has more than a touch of sarcasm, but it relates back to the first. Don't think that with WEP your network is secure. -IF- someone wants to get into your network and you're using WEP it's not difficult. But at the very least you HAVE added a deterrent. So if it's someone randomly cruising and looking for bandwidth then they will be much more likely to use the next WLAN that is genuinely unprotected, than hack yours just to check their email.
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Originally Posted by Howard2k
He's (rightly) suggesting that WEP is trivial to break. Whether it's 128 or 64 really makes no difference and if the speed with 64 bit WEP is higher than 128 bit WEP you may as well use 64.

The second comment has more than a touch of sarcasm, but it relates back to the first. Don't think that with WEP your network is secure. -IF- someone wants to get into your network and you're using WEP it's not difficult. But at the very least you HAVE added a deterrent. So if it's someone randomly cruising and looking for bandwidth then they will be much more likely to use the next WLAN that is genuinely unprotected, than hack yours just to check their email.
Well I honestly want a discussion on the difference between wep vs wpa. He brought it up.

Of course I know if any person who understood the programming involved, or by whatever other means they could break into a network.
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Originally Posted by ReaVe The JusT
Well I honestly want a discussion on the difference between wep vs wpa. He brought it up.

Of course I know if any person who understood the programming involved, or by whatever other means they could break into a network.

In simple terms - WEP is like having a deadbolt on your front door but your windows broken. There are a few serious flaws in the algorithm.

WPA has addressed most of these flaws.

Without getting into the geeky nuts and bolts, that's the difference. I'm not sure quite sure what you want - you say you want a discussion on the differences but I get the impression that you're not familiar with the geeky bits :) But google WEP, IV and flaw and you'll find some decent articles.
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Originally Posted by Howard2k
In simple terms - WEP is like having a deadbolt on your front door but your windows broken. There are a few serious flaws in the algorithm.

WPA has addressed most of these flaws.

Without getting into the geeky nuts and bolts, that's the difference. I'm not sure quite sure what you want - you say you want a discussion on the differences but I get the impression that you're not familiar with the geeky bits :) But google WEP, IV and flaw and you'll find some decent articles.

Thank you for the search tip. You're right, I can't discuss the geeky bits of network security. However I am a very curious person, and I like to have general information explained or a reference to go to. I don't like the mystery and try to sift out the information I can handle. :scratch_h
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Originally Posted by Howard2k
In simple terms - WEP is like having a deadbolt on your front door but your windows broken. There are a few serious flaws in the algorithm.

WPA has addressed most of these flaws.
I would say that WEP is more like a cheap deadbolt on a door but you left the key hidden outside somewhere. WEP uses the same encryption constantly, so if someone were determined enough to get on your network, it's just a matter of getting enough data packets and the key will be hashed.

WPA on the otherhand uses a rolling code which changes the encryption at specific interval so that even if the key is hashed for one set of data packets, it's now useless because the key has changed and is useless for the next set. This would be like having a deadbolt on a door, but the key you need is constantly changing.

My X50v does 802.11b with WPA, but it's incredibly slow probably due to the 11Mbps limit on 802.11b. My laptop works great with 802.11g on the same AP though.
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Old 08-01-06, 12:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Question- I was setting up WEP (cause I have a device that now dosen't work with WPA) and was wondering: now that I have set it up, I have a 10- digit key, but why can't I use it with odyssey? it tell's me i need the 5 or 13 digit key. My 10 digit key is Hexadecimal. is that the problem, cause i can't change it with my current router.
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