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Old 01-19-07, 02:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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best bluejacking app for x51v

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what is the best bluejacking (and, maybe bluesnarfing) application for the x51v, i have tried btcrawler without too much luck...

thanks in advance!
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Old 01-19-07, 09:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-24-07, 01:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you do know that bluejacking isnt illigal in most countries, all it is is sending people messages over BT

bluesnarfing is illigal, but i diddent ask for that,
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So, help me out here. What is the different between bluejacking and bluesnarfing? I understood bluejacking to mean attaching your BT device to someone elses phone to steal their service...which is always illegal. Are you using it to mean something else??

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Old 01-24-07, 04:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Although I'm not sure if this is his meaning, recently the two terms have been being applied to any unsecured/unpaired BT communications/chats.

I've never heard of bluejacking to "steal someones service" however. In the malicious term it is simply sending unsolicited messages - possibly in an amount that makes the target device unusable. Aka, any message sent that doesn't require a confirmation from the receiving device before said device receives it.
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Old 01-25-07, 01:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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bluejacking is just sending somone a message over bluetooth, to spook them or something, nothing malitious (sp?). although i suppose it could be used to DDOS, never heard of it being used for that before though.

bluesnarfing is exploiting a vulnerability in some phones bluetooth to dump their phones memory over bluetooth to yours
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DDoS - Distributed Denial Of Service.
DoS - Denial Of Service.
I think you meant DoS, and whether bluejack/-snarfing is legal or not - it's annoying.
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Sending a message "to spook them or something" without their consent is still an invasion of privacy and by definition is malicious as you are intending to cause them some inconvenience no matter how small, i.e. forcing them to dismiss some message prompt.

This kind of thing may not be considered illegal by just sending a message rather than stealing personal data, but it is still illegal in that you are invading their privacy.

Out of curiosity, why do you need a bluesnarfing program? There are bluetooth chat programs out there and that is the only legitimate reason I see for that type of thing.

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What I mean is that instead of bluesnarfing to send messages, there are proper chat programs that can work over bluetooth without the need for pointless and possibly annoying messages being sent via some bluesnarfing program.
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OK.. So, what would be the point of bluejacking except to annoy someone? Is there a legitimate purpose for this?

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to get peoples attention, and as a kind of psuedo chat, thats all...

as for invading somones privacy, isnt it invading somones privacy exactly the same way if you send them a message over AIM or MSN without their concent?

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Originally Posted by ultramagneus
to get peoples attention, and as a kind of psuedo chat, thats all...

as for invading somones privacy, isnt it invading somones privacy exactly the same way if you send them a message over AIM or MSN without their concent?
Yes it is!!!!!!!!!!! Your point being????????????
If you want to get someones attention via bluetooth then you should be close enough to ask them if they would like to talk to you.

I think you are running the risk of being labeled a Spammer. And I'm not aware of anyone on this site who likes spammers.
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To SPAM is probably the right term. Thanks Box
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Originally Posted by Box
Yes it is!!!!!!!!!!! Your point being????????????
If you want to get someones attention via bluetooth then you should be close enough to ask them if they would like to talk to you.

I think you are running the risk of being labeled a Spammer. And I'm not aware of anyone on this site who likes spammers.
Box, your post just gave me the image of two people sitting next to each other an IM'ing with one another. Oh the lengths we will go to to actually avoid talking. :)

Seriously, to answer a previous point, you can't do an MSN or AIM chat without the person consenting. If I add someone to my chat list, they have to agree to be on my chat list before I can chat with them. Not so here.

Either way, Box, I think your spammer comment is dead on target.

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Thank you people! I have to agree with all of you, he is sounding a lot like a spammer. Or at least like someone who doesn't understand why spam in any form is frustrating and annoying.

I suspect the logic behind it is "If they didn't want my emails advertising virility medication, why did they get an email address?" We get an email address to talk to people far away, not to recieve rubbish from some moron who makes $0.01 per email they send.

Similarly, why did we get a phone or pocket pc if it wasn't to get spam bluetooth messages? We get a phone or pocket pc because we need to talk to someone far away or to be productive on the move, not to be constantly dismissing messages sent by the grinning moron sitting opposite us on the train.

Too true dgoldring, BT messaging seems awfully limited in range, why not just move those mouth muscles a bit and actually talk...
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BTCrawler is great, works alot like WiFiFoFum but for bluetooth. BTCrawler is a nice tool to have if your in to wireless stuff.

As for his request, I think he is looking to hijack a BT connection, this is a gray area for sure.
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