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Old 10-25-03, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wifi with dialup...

If I wanted to setup a wifi network with 3 computers and 2 axims on dialup...
Can my dialup server have interent sharing enabled... connected via cat 5 to the I guess the in port of the wifi router to share the internet with multiple devices?
If I did that, can my other devices connect to the interenet and transmit and get files to and from the dialup server?
Or must I go for the logical route of router somehow connected with a wifi card in each computer?

My goal is to setup a wifi network with the least equiptment as possible, yet I want it to be expandable with as many devices as I an afford to get cards for (so far not many).

I have figured out that wifi cards can go in adhoc mode but a 4 way adhoc mode does not exist. A access point or something is needed in the middle for that type of setup. :crooked: So can someone clarify this for me?

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Old 10-25-03, 06:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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WiFi and dialup are really two separate things. What you need is a network with a router that supports a connection over a modem line rather than an Ethernet port what folks call a CAble/DSL Router. Once you have that type of router you can then add any Access Point you want to the network. So what you need is a router that has a bult in modem.

Now to confuse things, Lucents original WiFi router, called an RG-1000 that was also sold by Dell, had a built in modem and Ethernet port. It would also support ISDN if I remember correctly. It was a great little device, did a nice job of routing. and it offered WiFi support. Lucent spun off and called it Orinoco and now they are owned by Proxim.

I am sure there are other routers that will support a modem, but that is what you need to look for. Then you can add any WiFi Access Point to your network.

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Old 10-25-03, 07:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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An alternative is to build an adhoc network. One PC dials to the net and shares the connection with the other devices.

Each device needs a wifi nic, no ap/router needed. Not as secure or feature rich but hey, you're on dial right?
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Old 10-25-03, 07:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've never heard of a 4 way limit pn adhoc, where did you hear that?
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Old 10-26-03, 12:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think a 4way adhoc is impossible. I said that because I figure that I will need an access point or something in between.

I was hoping a cheap router would be the way to go and have my computer dial in to do the sharing, as I know the routers that have a modem in them are few and far between, and their prices are much higher.

My computer currently has internet connection sharing running for my other computer to connect also. Dialup isnt fast, but I use it for computer to computer transfers mostly anyways.
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No. 4 way adhoc will work.
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Old 10-26-03, 07:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If you’re going to have the whole lot of them on wireless connections and don’t want to have any PC’s connected via cable then yeah you could take the ad hoc way. But if you want to expand later using both wireless and wired network connections then you should probably buy the access point (not a wireless router, your dial up server is will be doing the "routing").

If you went the access point way, you’d have a cross over cable from the dial up server into the access point and then all wireless devices connect to that and then to the dial up server. Then as I said before if you wanted to add wired devices you could then buy a switch and connect that up and still have the wireless devices on the network without having to do all the joys of bridging networks if you went ad hoc.
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Old 10-26-03, 11:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Ah that sounds like it.. can a router be used as a access point instead?
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If it's a router with a wireless access point built in, yes. However these wireless routers would be a waste of money in your situation. You don't need the routing abilities.
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Old 10-26-03, 06:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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thats true, its just that I rarely see access points and I see many routers for sale. I will have to look.
But if I could find the ones with the modem built in, then thats even better.
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There are tons of the Lucent/Dell/Proxim RG-1000 which have a built in modem for sale on Ebay. I would just get one there.

I have one here with power supply but no manual that I would sell for $75. I have another that is missing a power supply, you can have that one for $50. Let me know. I take Visa/MC/Discover/Paypal/Check/Cash/MO plus $5.00 for shipping in the states

The RG-1000 is a router, wireless access point with a modem and Ehternet connection. Like I said they are not the easiest thing to setup, so it will take time. But it is the only real solution I know of for shared modem line access for a resonable price in a wireless environment.

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