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Old 02-24-03, 01:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Worried Wardriving

So I fired up my Axim and started SiteMonitor and tossed it on the dash of my car to drive to the drug store this weekend.

When I got home I had logged 11 wireless networks.

4 were named "default"
3 were named "Linksys"
I'm guessing they probably weren't encrypted either...

So how many people in here haven't encrypted their networks?
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Old 02-24-03, 01:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Wardriving

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So how many people in here haven't encrypted their networks?
Too bad WEP is pretty much worthless with tools like AirSnort and WEPCrack around. If folks just changed the defaults I'd be happy enough for them. I dream they use MAC filtering as well.

On that topic, know of a good, cheap/free WIn32 IPSEC solution? I run IPSEC for VPN chores on a Linux box, but would like to find a Win32 alternative for my work laptop.

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Old 02-24-03, 02:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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SiteMonitor?

Can you be more specific with what SiteMonitor you speak of? URL please? I Googled it and got a bunch of website monitoring services.
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I think the original poster might have been referring to Site Survey, part of the utilities that ships with the Linksys WCF12 card.
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Re: Wardriving

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So I fired up my Axim and started SiteMonitor and tossed it on the dash of my car to drive to the drug store this weekend.

When I got home I had logged 11 wireless networks.

4 were named "default"
3 were named "Linksys"
I'm guessing they probably weren't encrypted either...

So how many people in here haven't encrypted their networks?
I'm about to enter the wireless network world once my Ax gets here so my question....

How about give a brief overview on what us neophytes should do or don't do while setting up our network. I think quite a few people would benefit from hearing what those with experience would recommend.

Thanks!
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Re: Re: Wardriving

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I'm about to enter the wireless network world once my Ax gets here so my question....

How about give a brief overview on what us neophytes should do or don't do while setting up our network. I think quite a few people would benefit from hearing what those with experience would recommend.

Thanks!
I'm in a hotel, so it'll be quick:
Do:
-change the defaulot ssid and password
-turn on wep 128bit keys if possible
-change your wep keys often
-enable mac filtering and add all your mac addresses
- turn off ssid broadcasting
- limit the number of dhcp leases your ap/router hands out
- think about getting an antenna to focus your broadcast if you live in a densely populated area.

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Re: Re: Re: Wardriving

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I'm in a hotel, so it'll be quick:
Do:
-change the defaulot ssid and password
-turn on wep 128bit keys if possible
-change your wep keys often
-enable mac filtering and add all your mac addresses
- turn off ssid broadcasting
- limit the number of dhcp leases your ap/router hands out
- think about getting an antenna to focus your broadcast if you live in a densely populated area.

HTH,
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Great, Thanks!

This will give me a good start to begin my trek....
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This is definitely a very informative thread for me because I am soon going to be joining the wireless crowd. I have a Linksys router now that I had to run wires through the house and that was a pain. I am wanting to get an extra computer or two for my kids and I am going to buy a wireless router so I can hook them and my Axim up. I haven't really read much on how to setup a wireless network but I did run across an article that breifly describes some of the security info that is mentioned in this thread. I 'm sure it's not that informative for those who know what they are doing but I found it interesting and helpful.

How to protect your home network.
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This is pretty informative, and so It is granted the STICKY, until a better one comes up
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This is pretty informative, and so It is granted the STICKY, until a better one comes up
Hehehehe, Hey Beavis, I'm sticky.

I've got some beefier stuff from a 802.11b UG. If I can find them I'll post them to this thread...

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Old 02-25-03, 03:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Securing Your Wireless Access Point

Securing Your Wireless Network (A Quick and Dirty HOWTO for Home 802.11b Users)

You just got a nifty new Access Point and want to surf while you sip cool drinks in the shade. I need to stoke my own ego by offering pedantic advice to unassuming newbies. We’re a match made in heaven my friend.

This is a meatier explanation to a thread I replied to in the Aximsite forums(http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...&threadid=4086). It is not meant to be complete and I am sure there are people who know a sh|tload more than me. If you are one of those many, please add additional info! HOWTOs only work if they are living documents!

You will need to RTFM the docs for your AP or AP/Router. I’ve got a Linky and can offer some help if you email me offline. Perhaps those folks running different stuff can volunteer as well.

Some things I do to lock down my network.

1: CHANGE THE DEFAULT SSID AND PASSWORD! I can’t stress this enough. When I drive by your house using Netstumbler and see that you’re SSID is ‘linksys’ I’m not going to try ‘admin’ for the password. But the 13 year script-kiddie cruising by on his bike sure will. I’ve renamed my SSID to ‘Connect to My Network and Die You Unworthy Scum.’ (Well, not really, but you get the idea.) If you decide to leave your AP open, consider naming setting your SSID to something like ‘OPEN NETWORK’ ‘FREENET’) (Yet another note – if you decide to open up your AP, put it in a DMZ or outside of your network firewall – Google for more info.)

2: You should also consider disabling the broadcast of your SSID. Stumblers who use cards and tools that support promiscuous mode can still find you, but it’ll help keep people away.

3: Enable WEP and use 128bit keys if your cards and AP support it. You’ll need to have the same keys on both the cards and AP. Note the WEP is _completely_ crackable, but it takes time to do this, so you’ll discourage all but the most determined crackers. If you are truly paranoid, set up VPN. Whatever you do, don’t transmit sensitive data (even with WEP enabled) to websites that don’t use SSL.

4: Change your WEP keys often. It’s a pain in the ass. I know - the network I run with my neighbors has over 25 hosts so changing them all takes a while.

5: Disable DHCP or at least limit the number DHCP leases your AP/Router doles out. If you’ve got 5 computers on your network, give out 5 DHCP leases. Then only 5 machines can connect. To get more hardcore (but add to your setup time) consider using static IP addresses.

6: Get up and stretch. You must be bored already reading this.

7: Filter the MAC addresses that can connect to your device. Each network card (be it Ethernet, wifi, token ring etc) has a unique id assigned to it called a MAC address. Many routers allow you to specify what MAC addresses can connect to them. (You can hack you MAC addy, but the hassle to pay off factor for someone trying to comporimise your network is high and besides your neighbor left his stuff hanging out wide open so why bother with your rig…)

8: If you’re really paranoid or really geeky, think about getting (or building) specialized antennas. You can use an antenna to focus the broadcast area of your AP which will make it harder for stumblers to ‘see’ you.

Spend some time in the forums at www.netstumbler.com and in the Wiki at www.personaltelco.net freakishly smart people hang out there and they can provide far more info on this subject.
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Quote:
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This is pretty informative, and so It is granted the STICKY, until a better one comes up
i have no life:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...&threadid=4206

perhaps the above is a better one?

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An addition

Forogt one:

Update the firmware on your router and cards. Even if the box says 'Brand New!' the device maker has probably posted an update....
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Point taken, threads are now merged :) Hey, Mattf, Wanna write a tutorial on this subject, you seem to be farely knowledgeable on the subject. IE, basically I cut, and past what you posted into the tutorial section, and put ur name on it. heh
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Point taken, threads are now merged :) Hey, Mattf, Wanna write a tutorial on this subject, you seem to be farely knowledgeable on the subject. IE, basically I cut, and past what you posted into the tutorial section, and put ur name on it. heh
No problem. I have a flight tonight and some time to kill. I'll pretty much be a copy paste of my longer post. Okay?
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