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Old 03-05-05, 10:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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No Wireless Connection with WEP activated on access point

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In need of Newbie to Wireless help. I received my X50v yesterday.

I was wondering if there was a step by step guide to set up an 802.11B connection using WEP on the X50v?
I have followed the instructions in the manual and LEAP Wireless LAN Secuity guide. And the step by step instructions for my wireless access point.
I can only connect my X50v to my Linksys WAP11 with WEP off. With WEP enabled the PDA does not see the access point.

My access point is a Linksys WAP11. It is connected to my 4 port Linksys EtherFast Cable/DSL router/switch BEFSR41.

I would like my access point to be password protected and encrypted so no-one can piggy back on my high speed internet connection.
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Old 03-05-05, 11:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you sure it doesn't see it or is it just not making a connection? The most likely problem is that you tried using the passphrase on your Axim. You need to enter the key in hexidecimal format (10-characters for 64-bit; 26 for 128). In this regard, you may as well save yourself some key entry and use 64-bit. In practical terms, it's just as secure as 128.
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I'll try activating WEP again and I will post the error message I receive .
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I tried activating WEP again. After configuring the Leap security program my PDA searches for a wireless connection. It doesn't find a connection.
I delete the wireless association and disable WEP on the AP. Then I reconfigure the Leap program again and I have an immediate wireless connection.
I did choose 64bit encryption in HEX and input the codes on the PDA.
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Originally Posted by ikehiker
Are you sure it doesn't see it or is it just not making a connection? The most likely problem is that you tried using the passphrase on your Axim. You need to enter the key in hexidecimal format (10-characters for 64-bit; 26 for 128). In this regard, you may as well save yourself some key entry and use 64-bit. In practical terms, it's just as secure as 128.
I thought it was a passphrase problem. This is way more confusing than setting up a wired network. The Dell manuals don't seem to help. One would think if you followed the step by step instructions in the manual there wouldn't be a problem.

Another problem is my WAP11 does not prompt me for a user name when I log into it. I have to leave the user name blank and use my password to enter setup. I have tried setting up a user name on the setup page but when I log out and log back in if I use the user name I have given the WAP it will not open the setup html page. Again I have to leave user name blank and only use the password I have selected to open the setup html page.

The leap program always prompts for a user name and will not allow me to leave it blank.
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Are you running LEAP on your network? I though only Cisco networks had that capability. I don't understand why you are using it on the Axim if you are not running it on your network. If fact, I don't think the authentication works from a LEAP client unless you are interfacing with a LEAP-enabled network. In any case, I have no experience with it, so someone else is going to have to help you.
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Originally Posted by ikehiker
Are you running LEAP on your network? I though only Cisco networks had that capability. I don't understand why you are using it on the Axim if you are not running it on your network. If fact, I don't think the authentication works from a LEAP client unless you are interfacing with a LEAP-enabled network. In any case, I have no experience with it, so someone else is going to have to help you.
I believe I have a Cisco network. The Linksys wireless access point has the Cisco trademark on it.
I can now connect to the access point with WEP enabled. The only thing I did differently to get the Axim to connect to the access point was only filling in the first key block for the WEP encryption. Before I was filling in all four key blocks.

I can't get authentication to work. Do I need to worry about authentication?
If I have 64 bit WEP enabled on my access point will this prevent someone piggybacking on my highspeed Internet connection?
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use THIS to generate a random HEX Key to put in both your Router and Axim.
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A WEP key will prevent unauthorized access to the extent that someone doesn't crack your WEP code. I don't know much about cracking the codes, but it apparently can be done without too much difficulty.

The limited research I've done on securing a wireless connection also indicates that you should turn off your SSID broadcasting and enable MAC filtering. I guess if you turn off SSID broadcasting, then people can't "see" your router. Not sure what MAC filtering does -- I couldn't find how to enable it on my router.

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ANY lock on ANYthing only serves to keep honest folk, honest.

Besides, there are so many hapless n00bs with completely OPEN, Default Settings on their WiFi Networks....even the simplest Security measures will cause most War Drivers to simply pass-you-by.

If someone really wants onto your Network, the tools are readily available on the www.
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Originally Posted by matthewp
A WEP key will prevent unauthorized access to the extent that someone doesn't crack your WEP code. I don't know much about cracking the codes, but it apparently can be done without too much difficulty.

The limited research I've done on securing a wireless connection also indicates that you should turn off your SSID broadcasting and enable MAC filtering. I guess if you turn off SSID broadcasting, then people can't "see" your router. Not sure what MAC filtering does -- I couldn't find how to enable it on my router.
Thanks for the info. I have turned off SSID broadcasting on my access point.
Although when I turn on the Axim now I get a momentary pop up message prompting me to choose a network to log onto. But it seems like the Odyssey Client knows which network to log onto.
When I check the Odyssey Client properties status it is connecting to my network.

When I scanned for available networks I can see others available. I'm guessing one of my neighbours has a wireless access point.
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Cisco bought Linksys but they aren't running Cisco protocols (yet, anyway) but I'm glad it's working for you. MAC filtering does add an extra layer to prevent unauthorized access of your router. The main reason for using the WEP protocol is that it also encrypts the data stream, so anyone 'listening in' won't know what you are sending. As MrK said, it all can be gotten past but it's unlikely anyone will be trying when one or more of your neighbors are probably wide open.
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I imagine that, since your Axim sees more than one AP, it is prompting you to see which one you want to connect. In my house, my AP is the only one in sight, so I don't get prompted -- it just automatically connects.

I thought of two more pretty basic things you should ensure you do. That is to change the password for your router. You alluded to doing this earlier, so you probably already have. This is important because many of the routers have the same IP address. If someone uses the IP and the default password, they have full access to your router and can change/access about anything they want.

A second thing is to change the SSID name in the router. These names are also standard, like "Linksys" or "Netgear." If someone scans for one of the default SSIDs, it doesn't matter so much if you have broadcasting turned off because they can still find it easily.
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