bogardan

I pretty much understand the pros (better office support) and cons (incompatibility with most wm03se software) of upgrading to it, but my question is it hardware limited ? I mean why there isn't an upgrade for like x30 which practically have the same hardware as x50v (just different screen vga vs qvga)

I thought since WM 05 have non volatile storage, the hardware will be designed differently ?

ShaunLeeClarke

For non-volatile storage, the hardware is no different, it's just that the OS manages the memory differently.

As for why Dell isn't releasing the update for older models, I assume it would take a lot of time and effort to get the upgrade complete and doing so for older models would not be worth it.

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Howard2k

Originally Posted by bogardan

(incompatibility with most wm03se software)

Says who???

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currahee2100

This has been stated over and over again. So this should be sticked I think.
The reason why there's no Windows Mobile 5 is because only the X30 Mid and High would be able to accomodate it. Even then, we would be left with no built in storage space left because WM5 eats up 66MB. Now if there was only 64MB... well you can see why it's not there can you?

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bogardan

Thx for the reasoning. Hmmm, installing WM05 SD Card in the other hand that would be great :D ... no more space limitation problem ... just wishing :) As X30 owner :D I want some more functionality of word/excel/pp/pdf out of my operating system :D

Xelkos

Bloatware finally infests the PDA market! Lovely!
Thanks Microsoft!

THINK COMPACT!

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dougpaw57

Originally Posted by Xelkos

Bloatware finally infests the PDA market! Lovely! Thanks Microsoft! THINK COMPACT!

What do you mean "finally?" As a long time user of Palm OS handhelds, I always knew that any Microsoft OS for handhelds was bloatware.

flosfer

Sure, many commercial programs are examples of bloatware, for two reasons: first they often try to accommodate a variety of user choices, and second, they are (usually) written in very high level languages which sometimes don't become optimized in terms of space. (Does anyone doing commerical work actually program in assembly language any more?)

The problem with bloatware seems to be the annoyance we have when our hardware devices run out of speed and/or memory. So maybe we should point some of our fingers at Dell for marketing a machine which would soon start to go obsolete. On the other hand, if Dell did otherwise, the cost of the machine would become more and more bloated.

Xelkos

So, it is acceptable to use programs to do the programming for you?
That's why there is bloatware!



Real programmers don't bloat.

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flosfer

Originally Posted by Xelkos

So, it is acceptable to use programs to do the programming for you? That's why there is bloatware! Real programmers don't bloat.

Ha! Well, how can you not use programs to do (much of) the programming for you in a Windows environment? (Not that I am an expert in that area, though.) (Hmmm. Maybe real programmers do not program for Windows.)

It would be interesting to figure out what counts as bloatware. It must be relative to what the current hardware is like. I remember (way back when) when 32k (yeah, kilobytes) was bloat, and too much for many machines.

AdamaDBrown

Originally Posted by currahee2100

This has been stated over and over again. So this should be sticked I think. The reason why there's no Windows Mobile 5 is because only the X30 Mid and High would be able to accomodate it. Even then, we would be left with no built in storage space left because WM5 eats up 66MB. Now if there was only 64MB... well you can see why it's not there can you?

Actually, it's possible to cram WM5 into 31 MB of ROM, though I don't know what you would have to leave out to do that.

currahee2100

Originally Posted by AdamaDBrown

Actually, it's possible to cram WM5 into 31 MB of ROM, though I don't know what you would have to leave out to do that.

Yes it could be stripped down to 31MB. But at what cost exactly? It could fit, but it'd be feature stripped.

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