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Old 07-01-03, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Performance of upgraded Axim

It appears that the benchmarks available online compare Dell's old Axim to a new unit with WM2003 preinstalled. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the new unit ship with a PXA255, instead of the previous PXA250? If so, the percieved performance increase of the new OS may be entirely due to the improved speed of the new hardware. In fact, Microsoft has a long history of bloating up new operating systems that are only faster if you actually use much faster hardware than was standard for the old OS.

Can anyone provide a link to benchmarks of an 'old' Axim, both before and after the WM2003 upgrade? I'm considering the new OS, but as my current system meets my needs, the marginal benefits of a better browser won't be worth the cost of decreased performance....
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aes123....many old Axims also had the PXA255. Mine was purchased back in February and still has the old PXA250. But some of the newer "old" Axims (starting towards the end of March if my memory serves me correctly) had the newer PXA255 processor.
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Old 07-01-03, 11:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, ok...

Still, I'd be interested in seeing a 'before and after' benchmark scenario for the PXA250 processor. I guess it would be useful to see a 'before and after' for the PXA255 as well.

I guess I'll have to wait until the upgrade CDs start arriving...
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Old 07-01-03, 11:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yup, my ppc 2002 axim uses the 255.

Im sure once people start getting wm 2003 we will see the differences between 250/255 and what 2003 does for it.
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I'll try and benchmark my PPC 2003 Performance model (when it arrives :rolling: ) against my PPC 2002 PXA255 standard model... if I remember... lol

Can anyone tell me what benchmarking software to use?
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does anyone know whether the axim's with the 255 actually implement the faster (200MHz if i remember right) system bus speed and implement memory that will run at the faster speed?

it would be lame if all that occured was a switch out of parts from the 250 to 255 simply for inventory reasons.
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Old 07-02-03, 10:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'll try and benchmark my PPC 2003 Performance model (when it arrives :rolling: ) against my PPC 2002 PXA255 standard model... if I remember... lol

Can anyone tell me what benchmarking software to use?
try this... http://www.ive-software.com/pocket-pc-benchmark.php3
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Processor Type

How does one find out which processor is in his/her Axim? The System information just says Intel XScale 400 MHz.
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How does one find out which processor is in his/her Axim? The System information just says Intel XScale 400 MHz.
Settings>About -> on the Version tab
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it would be lame if all that occured was a switch out of parts from the 250 to 255 simply for inventory reasons.
It's my understanding that was exactly what was done. Intel designed the 255 as a drop in replacement for the 250 so manufacturers would not need to reconfigure their motherboards and I'm 95% sure Dell has not reconfigured it the on the Axim. This is probably one reason they've never mentioned the 255 pross in their specs. It's also my understanding that the Axim with the 255 is about 20% faster than with the 250 in benchmark tests (whereas with the faster bus, it should in theory be about twice as fast). I suspect the elusive X3 and X7 will have the faster bus but I doubt that they will ever do it with the X5.
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well if it's true it makes sense. however, based on what i've seen by some of the overclocker fiends on this site, if any of them were worth their salt they'd have cracked open one of their x5's and got the skinny on the setup and have mod instructions for the rest of the die-hards!...:)

i'm sure it's as easy as jamming the right bits into the clock gen/divider circuit and memory controller, and potentially upgrading the existing memory chip to faster, foot-print compatible chip...then again, maybe the layout timings are too tight. given that the clockheads have cranked their cpu's up past 450mhz, i suspect that thermals aren't an issue...and frankly, who gives a rat's a-- about emc
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try this... http://www.ive-software.com/pocket-pc-benchmark.php3

I ran this benchmark, but I don't have anything to compare it to.

I have a new 255 axim 400 with WM2003 and here are my results:

CPU:
Integer: 3576
Heap Managment: 8453
Floating point: 6799

Graphics
GDI 1: 2730
GDI 2: 5478
GDI 3: 1452

Flat File
File Writing: 7404
File writing: 138.3kb/s
File Reading: 7934
File reading: 129064.8kb/s

Is this good?

anyone with other results, please post or link to them so I can compare. I'm not impressed so far.
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Old 07-07-03, 04:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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here are my results on a 2002 axim 400 with a 255

CPU:
Integer: 6388
Heap Managment: 18464
Floating point: 14761

Graphics
GDI 1: 4063
GDI 2: 1879
GDI 3: 3150

Flat File
File Writing: 12534
File writing: 81.7kb/s
File Reading: 11584
File reading: 88397.8kb/s

if your not impressed it looks like you should be. of course my AXIM is loaded down with as much stuff as i can cram into it so that might have a bearing on things. if dell ever ships out the upgrade then i will hard reset and benchmark 2002 with nothing else installed then do the same with 2003 installed and that will show the most accurate comparison.

now im not exactly sure what they all mean but it looks like your scores are considerable better than mine.
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people have stated in the forums that 2003 does a heck of a lot better work with Xcale cpus than 2002... that is why his are better...
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...now im not exactly sure what they all mean but it looks like your scores are considerable better than mine.
How do you know lower scores are better? I haven't seen this on the website, and the software doesn't seem to explain it either.

I'm concerned cause my new Ax SEEMS slower than my old 206Mhz StrongARM iPaq 3635 (32/32 ram/rom), running alot of the same applications. Does anyone else notice this coming from an old Ipaq?

Unfortunatly, as you can see from my avatar, I can't go back and benchmark my paq, but this does seem sluggish.
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