Dell (finally) admits to screwing up WM2003

polaris2k3 · 07-18-03, 02:27 AM

Well, Dell has finally got over its denial phase is working on a fix for the slow downs in Windows Moblie 2003. More info here:
http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-1026...ag=cnetfd.buzz

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chog · 07-18-03, 02:30 AM

I am glad to see that Dell is getting thier act together.

Howard2k · 07-18-03, 02:32 AM

But still no timeframe for a fix..

Tray · 07-18-03, 02:47 AM

They are still in denial however they admit that a problem exists. They still deny alot of things like the reported problems.

AstronUSA · 07-18-03, 03:40 AM

This is what happens when everybody wants the latest and greatest. Hey its gonna be buggy. There are a great number of users who said I want it. And I want it now. and then they act surprised when it has problems.

If you want to be on the cutting edge of technology. Your gonna have to lean to roll with the punches.
Sure its easy to say well it should of been tested first. And yes it should have. But thats not the way it works. Its this way with games, applications. Microsoft operating systems. YOU ARE THE BETA TESTER. get used to it. It alsmost feel like I'm explaining this this to new users ( noobs) The people that would frequent a board like this I would not expect to be new users.

That being said, would I buy a new Axim ? Would I recommend someone to buy an Axim? Do I like my Axim?

Would I buy a new Axim ? NO

Would I recommend someone to buy an Axim? NO

Do I like my Axim? YES

I like it very much. It does everthing I want. But Dell sales and Dell Customer support is abysmal . The only products I will buy from dell. Are the ones that will suport my axim. They can send me a 50% coupon. And they will have wasted the 50 kbs it took to send the message.

Hey guys i'm sorry. But this is just the way it goes.

07-18-03, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AstronUSA
This is what happens when everybody wants the latest and greatest. Hey its gonna be buggy. There are a great number of users who said I want it. And I want it now. and then they act surprised when it has problems.

If you want to be on the cutting edge of technology. Your gonna have to lean to roll with the punches...

It would be nice if people actually read the posts here regarding WM2003 before going on a self-righteous rant.

starforce_chips · 07-18-03, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by AstronUSA
This is what happens when everybody wants the latest and greatest. Hey its gonna be buggy. There are a great number of users who said I want it. And I want it now. and then they act surprised when it has problems.

If you want to be on the cutting edge of technology. Your gonna have to lean to roll with the punches.
Sure its easy to say well it should of been tested first. And yes it should have. But thats not the way it works.

Umm...I don't hear HP, Viewsonic, and Toshiba complaining about their rollouts of WM2003.

On top of that, this just shows that Dell won on price in the beginning, but in the end (with the upgrade) you know just how cheap their hardware is. It tells me that their hardware couldn't handle to added components. I always wondered how you could fit leather grips, fast connectivity, and a popular OS in a $200 price range...

polaris2k3 · 07-18-03, 03:41 PM

I remember a similar news story was posted on The Register on Monday and the slow down was cause of excessive reading and writing to memory, the problem can be fixed with a firmware update. But dont take my word for it, go have a look on The Reg.

Kardinal · 07-18-03, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by starforce_chips
It tells me that their hardware couldn't handle to added components.

Maybe I missed some info here, but I don't see the logical leap between slowness with a new operating system and hardware failure. If the fault is in the hardware, why does the slowness not appear on PPC2k2 (and maybe even the fabled 14000 build, if it really exists?)

If anything, the most reasonable culprit would be the file system driver, according to the benchmarks we're seeing.

red-i · 07-18-03, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by Kardinal

If anything, the most reasonable culprit would be the file system driver, according to the benchmarks we're seeing.

I agree, and I'm sure it's not a difficult issue to fix. I'm sure we'll see a fix soon enough.

polaris2k3 · 07-18-03, 05:16 PM

Kardinal and red-i, I would suggest going to The Reg as I suggested above.

polaris2k3 · 07-18-03, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by starforce_chips
I always wondered how you could fit leather grips, fast connectivity, and a popular OS in a $200 price range... [/B]

I don't really agree with you here either though...the axim dont have leather grips...the black strips on the side are rubber...and thats not exactly a expensive material...USB 1.1 isn't exactly fast connectivity either...even if they used USB 2.0 it won't have costed them that much extra, and OEM deals from Microsoft for OSs is pretty cheap

But most importantly, Dell and M$ is trying to break into this small business/consumer market of next-gen powerful PDAs, alot like what M$ did for the xbox, Dell might not be lossing 100dollars per unit sold, but Dell execs would totally be happy with making a little less profit to gain for market share.

Kardinal · 07-18-03, 05:37 PM

While I prefer not to get my news from the online equivalent of the National Enquirer, and a news source that's right up there with NewsMax and the Drudge Report in terms of journalistic standards, I'll check it out.

After reading both articles on The Register, I see no indication that the failure is a hardware one. Perhaps you would care to point out the parts that seem to indicate that the problem is a failure of hardware?

polaris2k3 · 07-18-03, 09:18 PM

The Reg is a very fast source for first hand news in the tech world, much like /. But in the end its just that, a rumor mill, people that the proper sense to treat it as such, can call it whatever they want.

But in a effort to not turn this into a flame thread, I am not the guy that said the Axim and WM2003 is slow cause of the hardware. Please read names carefully(or get someone else to read it out to you) before directing your argument.

Kardinal · 07-18-03, 11:53 PM

I knew you didn't state as such that you believed it was a hardware problem, but you clearly disagreed with me. Though I suppose you were trying to point out that it's a firmware, not a driver problem.

I noted well who said what. I just have very little patience for those who jump to strange conclusions, like starforce_chips, without evidence, or in contradiction thereof. Puts me in a bad mood.