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Originally posted by dan12 BIG DEAL???? NOW SOME PEOPLE CANNOT PERFORM THE UPGRADE, BECAUSE THEY TOOK IT OFF OF THE SITE BECAUSE OF THIS. Sorry, I had to shout.

Oh bull - they took it off because of the high rate of problems with people's installs stalling half way through. It's not like we've cracked MS's source code for XP here.

EDIT: Correction - Dell is apparently saying that the file was pulled because of what we figured out but I still maintain that we are being used as the excuse when the real reason was that, for at least 40% of A04 to A05 upgraders, this patch added insult to injury!

jinxy

I had a problem with the installer hanging and not recognising the language. Uninstalling everything and doing a hard reset cured this problem for me. By the way i had 2003 Rom A04 befor upgrading to Rom A05. Thought i'd just mention that befor i get flamed as a cracker.

dshirsh

When I [CENSORED] the [CENSORED] and edited the [CENSORED] with the code [CENSORED] I discovered that it would actually [CENSORED]. WOW !! Why pay for an upgrade when you can just [CENSORED] the [CENSORED]? If you're interested in the [CENSORED] please [CENSORED] me at [CENSORED].

Best of luck...........

ajabbari

Well sadly it would appear that I was wrong in my last post and Dell did pull the upgrade for the 2002 -> 2003 issues after all (though the other issues may have figured into it as well.

I could say I told you so to the people performing the upgrade illegitimately but....

JmE

(cough) (cough) scapegoats (cough) (cough) installer messed anyway (cough) (cough) easy out for Dell (cough)

and with that I will leave it be.

goodnight.

-JmE-

ender58074

No kidding. Out of curiosity (since I returned El Aximo and bought a 2215) I came snooping around to see how the upgrade issue is playing out...Dell's precious reputation and market share are on the line here. Can you honestly believe Dell would accept blame for, once more, screwing up? After the hassle I got from Dell about even admitting that there was an issue, it's laughable that the fix is inoperable for a large number of users. This business about them pulling it because people were 'hacking' it to their own evil purposes is butt-covering spin.

Slinger

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Originally posted by ender58074 This business about them pulling it because people were 'hacking' it to their own evil purposes is butt-covering spin.

It's also saving Dell's asses from the mighty Microsoft to whom the licence fee paid by 2002 users upgrading to 2003 eventualy goes to ! ;)

And Im not afraid to say "I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN !!" lol :p

Slinger.

dmascot

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Originally posted by snathanb Why do people try to climb Mt. Everest when they know they are risking life and limb just to climb a big pile of rocks? Just to see if they can do it? You bet. I'd never do it, because I think it is an unwarranted risk. Almost "maddness',' as you put it. But, I fully understand their drive and desire to try to accomplish something monumental, just to see if it can be done. And I applaud them for it. I don't sit back and judge them because I don't agree with what they are doing.

It is amazing how some can justify their illicit involvement in the upgrade fiasco.

Hey it is the same as Sir Edmund Hillary's drive to climb Mt. Everest.

Give me a break!

v2drinkers

Well i'm a PPC2002 user who nearly decided to do the illegal thing of upgrading to WMM2003 and I haven't ordered the upgrade CD(s)
The reason I thought about it was purely because I bought mine on th 7th June and Dell UK aren't giving out thefree version to anyone who bought after 23rd May - I didn't do the hack but I understand the people in the UK who bought after 23rd may (like myself) doing it. - And from my understanding the first person who hacked it was someone who bought after 23rd may 2003.

So IMHO I think dell created the problem in the first place by not having a globalpolicy on these things

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funug

Well, I am amazed at the traffic here. I must ask this question. How many members of this forum are using some sort of unregistered shareware? Running multiple copys of "legal" software? Using software that came from an oem on a different system. Using free Linux distros. It is a fact of life and software that people are going to use software. That is why we are paying $29.95 for recycled code.
If you are having problems with your AXIM and 2003. Send it back. Even if it is out of 30 days. They sold you a defective product. Call them and tell them you demand your money back.
We have been using Axim X5 advanced with 2002 for months. When we purchased more (10) we started having problems. I spoke to tech support to no avail. All 10 were sent back. We replaced them with HP h2215.
I love dell for their service and support. More times then not, they have resolved our issues. I personally have three dells @ home. These are the second generation of dells. I have owned and worked with Micron, Gateway, IBM, AST, Tandem, and HP. Dell is number one for a reason.
So unless you own a Mac, stop pointing fingers

JeffLewis

Err, I own four Macs - I'm not sure why that gives me finger pointing rights... :)

That aside, I'm always impressed when consumers willingly decide that they are at the mercy of a large multinational corporation, and worse, seem to find ways to rationalise why it's good to be in that position.

So, because we're getting tired of waiting for an upgrade that most of us are more than perfectly willing to pay for, because Dell can't get its collective act together and fix a problem - and because they can't even get their story straight - and because they don't seem to think they have any obligation to their customers to keep them updated on the latest status - and so on and so on... to the point that some of us (a tiny minority, let's be honest) are prepared to try something that is, when you come down to it, rather reckless and could leave us with useless PDAs.

Then, having botched even something as trivially simple as an installer - not once, but twice - in that they couldn't lock it against misuse AND it leaves a lot of PDAs unusable, Dell pulls the update (fortunately) but refusing to take responsibility for their errors, blames it on the small number of people who decide to risk it.

Rather than blaming Dell for cocking up this entire situation to a degree not seen in quite a while, some here would rather blame the victims - the customers who put their trust in Dell.

Now, here's something that they should consider - and something that I'm sure will make them quake in their boots: once the final US upgrade CDs show up in the US, you can bet your last dollar that it'll be up in usenet within the week. That'll be the entire update kit with all the software as a pair of ISO CD images.

No - I'm not going to post them - I don't break copyright laws - but I can assure you someone will. And then it really WILL be all over the place.

Yelling at AximSite users is stupid - most of us want to and try to support Dell (no matter how hard it gets to do that...) and would be perfectly willing to pay for the CDs now (and in fact, some of us have apparently paid for it and are still waiting for the actual disks...).

Sorry, the problem here is Dell.

JmE

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Originally posted by JeffLewis Now, here's something that they should consider - and something that I'm sure will make them quake in their boots: once the final US upgrade CDs show up in the US, you can bet your last dollar that it'll be up in usenet within the week. That'll be the entire update kit with all the software as a pair of ISO CD images.

Yes, in fact, the image has been out there... :) and no, I was not the one that put it there (I don't even have the CD). :p

Besides, I don't see any evidence that the US version would be any different than the UK version that has already shipped.

-JmE-

humba

now before you turn every upgrade CD shipped in Europe into an unofficial release and call everyone who paid for the upgrade and had it delivered a pirate as well let me set the record straight:
ROM A05 is official, final, Dell and probably also Aximsite approved. The ROM on the Axims that have been shipped since July 25th, the ROM on the upgrade CD that was officially delivered to hundreds if not thousands of Axim owners throughout Europe, and the ROM on the A04 -> A05 patch that Dell pulled is exactly the same.. bit for bit.
So, there's effectively no difference between an Axim that shipped with the A05 ROM, or one that was ugpraded from a previous one (regardless of the ROM number, and whether that upgrade was legitimate or not).

I suppose it wouldn't really be hard to find out ways to give people with an A04 Axim the opportunity to patch their device even if the no longer available installer fails, but as hex editing is off limits here, a collaborative effort to find a solution (yes, like the one for the tainted upgrade way) seems out of the question.

To those who have nothing better to to than bash other people because they are incapable of handling their frustration of being stuck with a half working Axim: try to focus your energy on solving the problem.. it is not that hard to find the patch, and if it doesn't work for you, there are still potential solutions.. they even float around here if you manage to read between the lines.

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