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Old 09-03-03, 11:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
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And if your trying to find correct instructions to hack the patch, you won't find them here.
Not hacking, dude. Just trying to install the Dell provided patch file to repair my WM2003 Axim (all legit Dell products - none working!) - thought that was the topic of this thread...
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Old 09-03-03, 11:25 PM   #32 (permalink)
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If going from A04 to A05, then I would say the 'other' method should work. Just make sure you use the correct info. Additionally, that should not be considered an illegal hack if it is used for a legitamate patch.

However, as I understand the way things have been happening around here as of late, it is probably best not to dig too deeply into such a subject in the Aximsite forums as there has been some lengthy debate about 'offical' vs 'unoffical' and what will and will not be allowed to be posted here. Therefore, such a topic would probably be best discussed in email between two or more parties rather than discussed in open forum. (IMHO)

Hope this helps keep misunderstanding down a little?

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Old 09-04-03, 03:38 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Just a little update to my original post, and let me say I HATE DELL!! I consider them thieves who rip people off as of buying my axim.
First they told me Id have my fix by August 11, then I received another email saying Sept 3, now having spoken to them again, they now claim they still cant fix the piece of s**t and the fix wont come until september 13, which will no doubt turn into October, and so on.
Ive really done my temper now, never felt so ripped off. Has anyone else had any other crap stories like this lately?

Im well and truly past believing a word they say, and its time to install the downloaded fix.
If anyone owuld like to PM me and give me a guide, that would be appreciated. I know it cant go on this forum, but its time we all stopped pussy-footing around and took matters into our own hands. We are being taken for a ride, while Ipaq owners laugh at our axim purchase.
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Old 09-15-03, 05:38 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I always enjoy a good challenge, and so when I read about this patch I was all up for testing the theory out.

The patch is still out there although I may not be permitted to say where so I won’t, anyhow I got my hands on it and within 30seconds of opening the file in a hex editor I saw the flaw and after 1 hour I had W2003M on my PDA fully working. I played around with it and saw a few added features on it but I was more impressed by the speed increase.

I then returned my PDA back to its original state and have ordered the CD.

Then I though if this could be done taking 2003 – 2002 and I was able to downgrade my Mates PDA to 2002 by cracking my own rom backup using the same method I used on the dell A05 patch, I then restored his PDA back to it original conditions with no problems.

My point is that with minimal programming knowledge I was able to do this, with out causing any damage to my PDA or my friends. If you are willing to use illegal software you accept the risks, if you can’t accept the risks then don’t do it, it is as simple as that.
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Old 09-15-03, 06:27 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Exactly.

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Old 09-16-03, 12:21 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Well Im giving up waiting for a fix. Buying a Compaq 2210 tomorrow!
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Old 09-18-03, 12:10 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Hi ! I'new in PDA, my Axim is runing on 2002. My friend just bought her Axim with WM2003. But the disadvantage is a lot of software out there not compatible with WM2003, so she wonder that can an Axim WM2003 downgrade to PPC2002? If yes, the PDA can it be upgrade back to WM2203 in the future?
There will be very much apprecitated if someone can help.
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Old 09-18-03, 12:16 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Hi ! I'new in PDA, my Axim is runing on 2002. My friend just bought her Axim with WM2003. But the disadvantage is a lot of software out there not compatible with WM2003, so she wonder that can an Axim WM2003 downgrade to PPC2002? If yes, the PDA can it be upgrade back to WM2203 in the future?
There will be very much apprecitated if someone can help.
Thanks in advance.
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Not without somehow purchasing a copy of PPC2002 OS from Dell. She could contact them and find out if they would be able to sell it to her, but I don't think they sell PPC2002 CDs.

The reason for the need to purchase from Dell, is because she only has a license to use WM2003. In order to use PPC2002, she would need to buy a license to use it.
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Old 09-18-03, 12:47 PM   #39 (permalink)
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That mean there's no solution for the downgrade?
Anyway, thanks a lot deftech. :)
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Old 09-19-03, 07:45 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I would say that is not entirely accurate. True, she is fully licensed for WM2003 but if she were to downgrade to PPC2002, then her WM2003 license is no longer in use on her AXIM. I worked for a software company which was a premier MS business partner for many years and in many conversations with MicroSoft folks and our corporate lawyer, this would be considered a "grey area". It is illegal to UPGRADE software without a license but downgrading is a relatively new concept that most software companies didn't consider when designing their license agreements (they assumed that everyone would want to upgrade only..... never downgrade.....the morons...LOL). My new company is currently upgrading MS-Office from 97 to 2000 but you cannot buy Office 2000 anymore so we checked with Microsoft and we were able to buy Office-XP licenses but install Office 2000. As long as the number of XP licenses we buy is equal to or more than the number of PC's we install Office 2000 on.

I would say to do the downgrade. You can't make an AXIM dual boot and as long as you have one valid licence for an upgrade product, what is the harm? Once WM2003 is fixed, then you can upgrade again, no harm ever done.

FYI.....Also, if you check the MS license agreement closely for the Windows OS, you can buy one copy of say Windows XP and install it on both a laptop and a desktop that you own because the license agreement talks about a stationary copy and a mobile copy from a single license purchase. (I spent many days on the phone clarifying this one too). Sometimes you will see a sticker on the bottom of a laptop that has 2 License keys for Windows, the first is for the laptop and the 2nd is for a desktop for the same user.

Sorry to go on and on.
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I know for a fact that everything that you mentioned is 100% correct with reference to Corporate Licenses. However, I have always been told that the "free downgrading" does not apply for users with Individual/Consumer Licenses.

I am not a lawyer or anything, but simply relaying information that I have been told over the years regarding downgrading.
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Old 09-19-03, 10:15 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I have looked over both the WM 2003 and WM 2003 upgrade EULA and I see no mention of any "downgrade". The only way you can legally get PPC 2002 on your Axim is to sell it and buy one with PPC 2002. The license is also not transferable.
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thanks for all the reply, really apprecitated.:)
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