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Old 08-25-05, 04:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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internet banking etc possible with pie?

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i have tried internet banking with pocket IE but have had no luck. can anyone tell me if pie supports internet banking and internet shopping.
e.g is it possible to download commercial software with a credit card from sites like handango/pocketgear over a wi-fi connection on my 4150 with pie.
if not, what browsers would be recommended to do this. i have heard of netfront and thunderhawk. are these any good for this.
thanks in advance.
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hi.
i have tried internet banking with pocket IE but have had no luck. can anyone tell me if pie supports internet banking and internet shopping.
e.g is it possible to download commercial software with a credit card from sites like handango/pocketgear over a wi-fi connection on my 4150 with pie.
if not, what browsers would be recommended to do this. i have heard of netfront and thunderhawk. are these any good for this.
thanks in advance.
To make internet banking work you need to use hack software (Tweaks2K2.NET maybe) to make PIE pass as IE6. You can then easily use internet banking. It's quite hard to do (well at least with my online banking) as they are made up with frames and require a lot of scrolling. But it is possible.
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hi.
i have tried internet banking with pocket IE but have had no luck. can anyone tell me if pie supports internet banking and internet shopping.
e.g is it possible to download commercial software with a credit card from sites like handango/pocketgear over a wi-fi connection on my 4150 with pie.
if not, what browsers would be recommended to do this. i have heard of netfront and thunderhawk. are these any good for this.
thanks in advance.
Hi mkennedy,

In addition to Rico's advice, have a look at this thread, especially my post about Gerard's Netfront tweak:

http://www.ipaqhq.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11949

Some banking sites are going to insist on java support, and then you'll need NetFront. Sometimes Netfront in itself isn't enough, and it needs Gerard's tweak to pretend to be IE 6.0. And sometimes, alas, even that isn't enough.

HTH.

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Hi mkennedy, In addition to Rico's advice, have a look at this thread, especially my post about Gerard's Netfront tweak: http://www.ipaqhq.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11949 Some banking sites are going to insist on java support, and then you'll need NetFront. Sometimes Netfront in itself isn't enough, and it needs Gerard's tweak to pretend to be IE 6.0. And sometimes, alas, even that isn't enough. HTH. Marc
thanks a lot for those suggestions. hopefully they'll work.

will this also work for internet shopping? e.g can i actually buy commercial software over a wireless connection on my 4150 from handango etc (sorry if this seems like a fairly basic query).

also, the reg editing seems (to me anyway) a fairly drastic step but i suppose it is necessary. if for some reason i screwed up is it possible to restore factory settings with a hard reset.

finally do you know of any good free regediting apps. i take it tweak2K2.NET is commercial software.

thanks again.
in the meantime i'll read the thread again and see if i can make any progress with that.
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This Reg Editor is free (although the author has asked for donations if you like it):

http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/

Provided you do a backup before you start messing about then you can set things right again if you mess up by doing a restore. Also, the reg editor has the ability to 'export' the registry (the same as saving it) - if you mess up then jsut do an 'import' of your previous export. But if all else fails, a hard reset will get you back to the 'fresh out of the box' state.

You should be able to buy over the interent using your PPC, provided you can get your PPC to mimic IE6 (that's the big stumbling block, as the secure sites won't work with anything less, & the default setting for IE on the PPC is, I believe, IE4). You might need NetFront, but you won't know until you try it!
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This Reg Editor is free (although the author has asked for donations if you like it): http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/ Provided you do a backup before you start messing about then you can set things right again if you mess up by doing a restore. Also, the reg editor has the ability to 'export' the registry (the same as saving it) - if you mess up then jsut do an 'import' of your previous export. But if all else fails, a hard reset will get you back to the 'fresh out of the box' state. You should be able to buy over the interent using your PPC, provided you can get your PPC to mimic IE6 (that's the big stumbling block, as the secure sites won't work with anything less, & the default setting for IE on the PPC is, I believe, IE4). You might need NetFront, but you won't know until you try it!
thanks a lot.
that addresses a lot of my queries.
but just to clarify, you are saying that no matter what you do with ANY regediting app that you can rectify any mistakes with a hard reset.

i don't mind actually doing a hard reset if i have to anyway. i just don't want to do irreparable damage but that won't happen presumably from what you say.

sorry if the clarification seems redundant but i just want to be doubly sure.
thanks again
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just to clarify, you are saying that no matter what you do with ANY regediting app that you can rectify any mistakes with a hard reset.
Correct - because by doing a hard reset you are setting your PPC back to how it was when you first bought it; all applications, programs etc that you have installed will be wiped off it. As part of the process of resetting itself it will also overwrite the existing registry. It's exactly the same as reformatting the hard drive of your PC & then re-installing Windows.

Taking this a step further, if you have a backup then you can do a restore from the backup (without having to do a hard reset) & your PPC will be exactly the same as when the backup was made. So if you are contemplating messing about with your PPC, or installing some software you're not sure about then you should do a backup first so that if it all goes terribly wrong you can do a restore & put your PPC back to how it was before you messed about with it.

If you are only messing about with the registry, then make a backup of the registry & the same thing applies (i.e. if you mess up the registry then you only need to restore the registry).

At the end of the day (apart from it getting dark ) it's best to make regular backups; if you do this every day then you will only ever lose one day's worth of work, if you do it every week then the most you will lose is one week - it depends on what you do & how important your data is to you as to how often you should back up, but I would back up regularly, and not just when you want to change something. (Sod's Law states that the PPC will crash when you need it most & when you don't have a recent backup!)

If it all goes horribly wrong & you don't know what to do then post a cry for help, as it may be possible to rescue your PPC without the need for a hard reset - the hard reset is the ultimate way to fix your PPC, as it wipes everything you have on it, so if you can get away with NOT doing a hard reset then it's best (although, sadly, sometimes there's no other way to fix things )
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Correct - because by doing a hard reset you are setting your PPC back to how it was when you first bought it; all applications, programs etc that you have installed will be wiped off it. As part of the process of resetting itself it will also overwrite the existing registry. It's exactly the same as reformatting the hard drive of your PC & then re-installing Windows. Taking this a step further, if you have a backup then you can do a restore from the backup (without having to do a hard reset) & your PPC will be exactly the same as when the backup was made. So if you are contemplating messing about with your PPC, or installing some software you're not sure about then you should do a backup first so that if it all goes terribly wrong you can do a restore & put your PPC back to how it was before you messed about with it. If you are only messing about with the registry, then make a backup of the registry & the same thing applies (i.e. if you mess up the registry then you only need to restore the registry). At the end of the day (apart from it getting dark ) it's best to make regular backups; if you do this every day then you will only ever lose one day's worth of work, if you do it every week then the most you will lose is one week - it depends on what you do & how important your data is to you as to how often you should back up, but I would back up regularly, and not just when you want to change something. (Sod's Law states that the PPC will crash when you need it most & when you don't have a recent backup!) If it all goes horribly wrong & you don't know what to do then post a cry for help, as it may be possible to rescue your PPC without the need for a hard reset - the hard reset is the ultimate way to fix your PPC, as it wipes everything you have on it, so if you can get away with NOT doing a hard reset then it's best (although, sadly, sometimes there's no other way to fix things )
thanks for confirming that.

on the somewhat unrelated subject of backups in general the only question i might have would be: when you make a backup e.g to a storage card how do you get it to automatically replace a previous backup rather than having to manually delete the old one. its a minor issue but since your on the subject you might be able to tell me.

thanks again
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Under backup options there is a section where you can "manage" the number of backup files to keep.

Choose 1 and it should ony keep your latest backup.
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Under backup options there is a section where you can "manage" the number of backup files to keep.

Choose 1 and it should ony keep your latest backup.
that's great thanks.
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