Hejo

Yeah, did I upgrade to wm2003 for a picture viever and some things I never us, not yet that is?
I hope the speed is asvspeedy enough for the price paid for the CD.
Empty, I don't see much of a speed improvement while the upgrade was done correct.

Activesync.

Now I have to put back my backup which seems not to be that easy. I mean I can't delete a partnership as a guest, can I?

Peace,
Henk.

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KPDUTY

The changes in WM2003 were well documented on MS mobile site & this forum:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobi...3/default.mspx

The biggest speed improvement requires an Axim with the PXA255 or greater processor where the internal bus speed can be selected in WM2003.

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Originally posted by KPDUTY The changes in WM2003 were well documented on MS mobile site & this forum: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobi...3/default.mspx The biggest speed improvement requires an Axim with the PXA255 or greater processor where the internal bus speed can be selected in WM2003.

Which I have.

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Jwilker

I noticed drastic speed improvements in most things, including IE. The Wifi functionality is nice also.

Guess you can't please all of the people all of the time.

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jeepfaned

so for us poor saps who got stuck with the pxa250...the wm2003 will not do much?? i guess mine works pretty good the way it is with my wifi..but im already seeing things that i feared and wrote about months ago on the site here. and that is that some new programs..like macromedia flash or shockwave..work only with the wm2003 update. when dell was confronted with these types of questions,they said something to the effect "we wont abandon the users who chose not to upgrade". which is fine for dell...but what about these people making the new games or apps or programs, seems like its already happening.
so in a nutshell, my ax 5 400 with pxa250 and a03 upgrade with dell wifi card...all that i bought less then a year ago..is already going out of style and seems to soon be forgotten....

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Originally posted by Jwilker I noticed drastic speed improvements in most things, including IE. The Wifi functionality is nice also. Guess you can't please all of the people all of the time.

Well you may expect something from your investments, right?:D
I still don't know how to restore my backup(*.stg)
The manual ( of the upgrade) isn't very clear about it.

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Jwilker

I can't imagine why you don't see any improvement. You're sure you have a PXA 255?

Just hard reset and then restore your back up.

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Originally posted by Hejo Well you may expect something from your investments, right?:D I still don't know how to restore my backup(*.stg) The manual ( of the upgrade) isn't very clear about it. Peace, Henk.

My understanding is that once you've upgraded to WM2003, you cannot restore a backup created with 2002. You'll need to reinstall your applications and copy over any files from your PC to the Axim.

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ajabbari

hejo are you talking about restoring your Activesync backup or PPC 2002? If you're talking about Activesync, then the manual (and the installer I think) makes it clear that a PPC 2002 backup cannot be used with WM2003.

If you're talking about restoring PPC 2002 then the file for that is a .ris file which you are given the option of creating within the actual upgrade program.

KPDUTY

Huh?

I have one of the early PXA250 versions and the upgrade to WM2003 was extremely worthwhile.

There is a modest improvement in performance even without the internal bus option and the software improvements in ZWC,PIE, INBOX, and WMP 9.0 are in my opinion a necessary requirement now.

I don't believe the bus option is that big a deal; especially since battery life is reported to be significantly reduced when the higher bus speed is selected. (I think?)

I would venture to guess that alot of PXA255 users don't even use the option.

(My opinion obviously)

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Originally posted by jeepfaned so for us poor saps who got stuck with the pxa250...the wm2003 will not do much?? i guess mine works pretty good the way it is with my wifi..but im already seeing things that i feared and wrote about months ago on the site here. and that is that some new programs..like macromedia flash or shockwave..work only with the wm2003 update. when dell was confronted with these types of questions,they said something to the effect "we wont abandon the users who chose not to upgrade". which is fine for dell...but what about these people making the new games or apps or programs, seems like its already happening. so in a nutshell, my ax 5 400 with pxa250 and a03 upgrade with dell wifi card...all that i bought less then a year ago..is already going out of style and seems to soon be forgotten....

JmE

Even though I had a PXA255 X5, I always ran in Auto mode which means that the PXBus was running the same as the PXA250. I found this performed well for me and gave me good battery life. I was quite pleased with WM2003 at this setting. Hence, I probably would have been pleased with WM2003 on a PXA250.

-JmE-

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Originally posted by jeepfaned so for us poor saps who got stuck with the pxa250...the wm2003 will not do much?? i guess mine works pretty good the way it is with my wifi..but im already seeing things that i feared and wrote about months ago on the site here. and that is that some new programs..like macromedia flash or shockwave..work only with the wm2003 update. when dell was confronted with these types of questions,they said something to the effect "we wont abandon the users who chose not to upgrade". which is fine for dell...but what about these people making the new games or apps or programs, seems like its already happening. so in a nutshell, my ax 5 400 with pxa250 and a03 upgrade with dell wifi card...all that i bought less then a year ago..is already going out of style and seems to soon be forgotten....

The upgrade on a 250 is still pretty sweet. It is faster and it uses a lot less battery power. As for being left behind, that is a sad fact of life. Ask those of us who had MIPS devices when MS abandoned them to support only ARM. :crooked:

JeffLewis

I've found that the upgrade provides very noticable improvement on both PXA250 and 255 processors. On the 255 you also get a significant improvement in battery life.

Before the upgrade, I could watch about 4 hrs of video on one charge - now I hit 6+hrs.

Also 'being left behind' is relative. I don't know too many developers who will optimise their apps for say a PXA265 processor to the point where it won't run on 250 or 255s. That's just bad economics. Since the instruction set for the 265 is only a little different - unless your app really, really needs that optimisation, it's nuts to dis so many potential customers (ie: well, almost all current PPC owners).

Dropping MIPS and SH3 made sense. Then, you DID have a problem with every app having to be compiled and tested on three different platforms. That costs money and takes time. Picking one and sticking to it made sense. Switching that one regularly doesn't.

The ARM XScale is the 'official' platform. It's not going away soon.

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Originally posted by JeffLewis I've found that the upgrade provides very noticable improvement on both PXA250 and 255 processors. On the 255 you also get a significant improvement in battery life. Dropping MIPS and SH3 made sense. Then, you DID have a problem with every app having to be compiled and tested on three different platforms. That costs money and takes time. Picking one and sticking to it made sense. Switching that one regularly doesn't. The ARM XScale is the 'official' platform. It's not going away soon.

Yeah it works ok, the upgarde. It is faster. Though, I am noticing that my X5 often get stuck especially when it is in the cradle.

It didn't make sense to drop the cascade menu's which the old PDA's and handhelds had.

Peace,
Henk.

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