Will Dell release a WM2003SE upgrade for the X5?

as77 · 07-03-04, 12:58 AM

You all know the story. Dell seems to be reluctant to release an upgrade. Initially, they said there would be no upgrade. Then they added that maybe there will be for the X3. Then Dell-Rollie in the Dell support forums said that there will be an upgrade but there is no information about what models will be included. Additionally, Dell-Rollie said that the previous source was an unnamed source and it was not the official standpoint of Dell. However, if you think about it, Dell-Rollie is also an unnamed source, he's just a support person, we don't know his name and he is in no position to release an official announcement. And it was about two months ago and we still have no further information.

Therefore, I would say the chances of Dell releasing an upgrade for the X5 (which is obviously considered by them as an old, obsolete device) are pretty low. The continued silence from the part of Dell is actually very telling. They don't want to make us upset by saying "No, you don't get an upgrade", so they don't say anything. They just let the time go by, and after they release a new unit, the successor of the X5 maybe, with WM2003SE, they will just hope that everyone will throw away the old, ugly, obsolete X5 and buy the latest and greatest unit. They hope that the excitement over the new unit will make customers forget about their stupid wish for an upgrade of their old X5s.

This is how I see it. What do you guys think? This is a poll, please vote.

jeepfaned · 07-03-04, 04:43 AM

my vote is yes,only cuz i wish they would wake up & realize what unit dell built its ppc foundation on! you cant build a house of brick, then pull out the first bricks you put down & expect the house to stand firm, and have people feel secure coming inside. dont be stupid dell!! we x5 owners...and there are many...are not going to sell our x5 to some young wet behind the ears young ppc pup for $50 and go out & spend $350 on a new unit. times a tough & money is tougher. we love our x5's and are not going to just toss them out like a quikie mart cup after we are done with it. and i dont plan on giving mine to my child just so i can buy a newer unit...(like i can afford to)...only because dell now wants to treat its ground breaking initial step into the ppc world like some secondhand cheap piece of crap b-day gift that you dont like & will never use! we have stuck with dell & put up with the nonenglish speaking support staff in india or wherever the heck they are,put up with, & patently waited for, patches & bugs to be fixed, center nav buttons, & hosts of other quirks to be fixed, & this is the thanks we get from dell??!! wheres your 'sack' dell? dont follow what other companies are doing...lead the way & stick true & dance with the one who brung ya!! or you will lose far more business then you think you can gain by forcing your loyal customers to upgrade unwillingly only because of your laziness to provide an upgrade.
we are the x5 and we shall be heard!!!
im ezed

gsteinb88 · 07-03-04, 09:14 AM

I didnt vote for two reasons. One is that this subject is like a 5 month old donky corpse that has been beaten to a pulp. The other is that i really dont care because even if dell got their act together and DID offer it, i will still use linux, which should be out pretty soon
-g

07-04-04, 10:45 PM

I think they will release it for previous Axims with a 400 MHz processor and higher, that's my gut feeling, I could be wrong. Who knows at this point, but I feel that the upgrade isn't too far off.

gstein - Do you have a web site where we can read more on the Linux OS for the Pocket PC? That actually sounds really cool!!

michaelp95 · 07-04-04, 11:22 PM

You know if you think about it and you don't have to that hard. Isn't the computer industry as a whole designed to keep selling your the next upgrade? Norton Anti-Virus 2002, 2003, 2004....Windows 95, 98, ME, XP......Many of us drool over waiting for the next upgrade, just cause we want the next greatest thing to keep our computer running like their new....seems like it would be a no-brainer for Dell to sell us all something that we want to buy.....

as77 · 07-05-04, 12:17 AM

Except that in the PPC world, the next upgrade is the next PPC, ie. the device itself, not just some software.

I think Dell thinks that if an upgrade is released, many people will just buy it and keep their old Axims for 1-2 more years. But if an upgrade is not released, they will hurry to buy a new PPC just to get the benefits of a new OS. Now an upgrade could be sold for $30, a new PPC could be sold for $300, which one will Dell choose?

07-05-04, 12:29 AM

That's a very interesting way to look at it, never thought of that . . .

io333 · 07-05-04, 02:16 AM

Long time, no post.

Anyway. Dell can sell me WM2k3se for $50, or not. If not, I'll just buy another PPC. But it probably won't be from dell. Might be, but probably not. So they can have my $50, or they can have nothing. I don't really care.

FallN · 07-13-04, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by io333
Long time, no post.

Anyway. Dell can sell me WM2k3se for $50, or not. If not, I'll just buy another PPC. But it probably won't be from dell. Might be, but probably not. So they can have my $50, or they can have nothing. I don't really care.

You might want to start looking into buying from another company: Dell just released a statement saying that they will NOT offer an Mobile 2k3 SE upgrade-- not for the X5 and not even for the X3i!

Sign the petition, please.

07-13-04, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by as77
Except that in the PPC world, the next upgrade is the next PPC, ie. the device itself, not just some software.

I think Dell thinks that if an upgrade is released, many people will just buy it and keep their old Axims for 1-2 more years. But if an upgrade is not released, they will hurry to buy a new PPC just to get the benefits of a new OS. Now an upgrade could be sold for $30, a new PPC could be sold for $300, which one will Dell choose?

It's not only Dell who thinks like this ... Have you ever noticed how many people tried to sell their X3i when the X30 came out? Or how many X5s were dumped when the X3i came out? And I am willing to bet some money that we will also see a noticeable number of Aximsite users selling off their X30s once Dell comes out with the new Axims with VGA or built-in phones ... Most people just don't buy PDAs for life and to maintain them throughout multiple lifecycles of the OS. PDAs are simply too cheap for that ...

as77 · 07-13-04, 03:56 PM

I agree that a PDA is not for life. But buying a new one every few months sounds stupid. I think a PDA should serve at least 2-3 years. There is technical progress but it's not so fast as to justify buying a new PDA every six months or every year. And whether you think PDAs are cheap depends on your income level. They are cheap for some people, not so cheap for some others. I don't think we should think of a PDA like a disposable camera or something.

07-15-04, 01:57 PM

think of it like this: you have been buying Chevy cars all your life then they come out with a new Cadillac. Both are made by GM you can't get most of the really good stuff that is on the Cadillac and put it on your Chevy. But your Chevy is still a great car and does all the stuff you wanted it to do when you bought it. So next time you are in the market, you move up to the Cadilac, or maybe not! I love my x5, it does all I need it to (for me at least) and I don't think I would buy an x30 just to get SE. for now at least.....

as77 · 07-15-04, 04:24 PM

That's why Dell's decision is questionable. There are a lot of people, including myself, who are not going to shell out several hundred dollars for a new PDA, but would pay happily $30-50 for an OS upgrade. Besides, denying upgrades will make customers look at other brands when their next PDA purchase is due.

07-15-04, 04:43 PM

Shoot, don't buy a Toshiba or HP. Toshiba has a horrible track record and HP did the same as Dell. Believe me, you are damned no matter where you go.

as77 · 07-15-04, 05:02 PM

Toshiba learned from their mistake.
And still there is Asus, Mitac, and I dunno what.