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Originally posted by as77 The guy still writes on the Dell forums, he has now repeated his claim in two other threads. His nickname is ptmark.

It can't be done. The best you could hope for is a broken Axim. These WM 2003 SE cds are custom jobs. You *might* be able to get it to copy into the axim, but you couldn't boot it.

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I don't see a reason why someone would make such a claim if it's not true.

Hmm, we are talking about the internet, right?

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Y?BHC! What better way to get a rep among the trolling community than causing dissent or maybe starting a flamewar in the Axim community. Heck the whole PPC community! I like the petition idea to get the upgrade better myself.

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as77

I know that the OS is customized for each device, but given the large degree of hardware similarities between the two devices, and actually all currently available PPCs on the market, it wouldn't be too surprising if the ROM images were interchangeable and the image from one unit worked OK on another unit. Minor glitches with specific drivers could be expected, but the OS itself could basically run.

Customizing the OS for a device is actually not such a terribly big job as the manufacturers want us to believe. I downloaded a video presentation from Microsoft's website that shows this. It's little more than a series of drag-and-drop operations to add the necessary components and drivers, then press a button and a ROM image comes out.

If I remember correctly, when WM2003SE came out, Microsoft actually flashed the PPCs of the participants of some conference with a generic, preliminary version of the OS.

mara6

You could get the same thing from SE as you could with a couple of programs in a lot less time (ohh lets say umm a 1 month!)

This guy (with the same first name as me) probably just wanted attention.

rayweil

What I want to know is this: why can't we just buy upgrades from MS? Like desktop OS. Instead we have to rely on the vendor to release upgrades. Of course they won't, ie Dell and HP.

Angry.......

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If I recall correctly that flashing killed their wireless access and they all had to sign a non-liability form freeing microsoft of all responsibility for any devices hosed by the flashing. Dell won't cover you if you do it, Toshiba won't, and frankly PDA's make lowsy paper weights. ;)

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As long as the bootloader is not overwritten, you can reflash your ROM from a memory card any time you want, even if the current image doesn't work at all.

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Originally posted by as77 As long as the bootloader is not overwritten, you can reflash your ROM from a memory card any time you want, even if the current image doesn't work at all.

Sure, but you are stealing from Toshiba. The fact that it could be done does not mean it is right.

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Originally posted by rayweil What I want to know is this: why can't we just buy upgrades from MS? Like desktop OS. Instead we have to rely on the vendor to release upgrades. Of course they won't, ie Dell and HP. Angry.......

Well it is Microsoft's idea to do it this way. I'm sure Dell, HP and others love the idea they don't have to do tech support on other OSs, but by the same token, they probably don't want to hassle of dealing with the new versions either. If something goes wrong with the OS, it is up to Dell to fix it.

wooch06

Even if you could get it to work, you risk ruining your Axim, and it would be a clear licensing violation, plain and simple.

Now, do you really think they would post the upgrade for anyone to download if you could simply modify it for another make/model?

as77

Of course it would be a violation of the license agreement, no doubt about that. But you guys are really not a bit interested in whether it would work?

Cheryl

Nope.

rayweil

Correct me if I'mwrong, but back when I bought the Axim X5, one of the features that persuaded me was the flash rom upgradeable feature. obviously I now understand that doesn't apply to to the OS. I cannot even buy the upgrade to PPC 2003 OS here downunder.

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Not me anyway. I don't develop software, I'm just a user... wait a minute... that last comment could be taken two ways...user in the computer sense of the word. ;)

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Originally posted by rayweil Correct me if I'mwrong, but back when I bought the Axim X5, one of the features that persuaded me was the flash rom upgradeable feature. obviously I now understand that doesn't apply to to the OS. I cannot even buy the upgrade to PPC 2003 OS here downunder.

Well those of us who had PPC 2002 on their X5s got to upgrade to WM 2003. I'm not surprised that Dell didn't let the X5 upgrade to WM 2003, but the X3 sure should have been.