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Old 10-31-05, 10:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Mine was really slow, and froze and gave me some memory error when I soft reset it. Then I soft reset it again, and everything seemed much faster.
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Old 11-01-05, 12:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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This may sound dumb, but I just upgraded to WM5, and had the slow problems everyone else is having. But as I was setting things up the way I want them, I turned OFF the IR "always receive" and now things seem to be running a little bit faster. Still not as fast as 2003se, but better none the less. This may have nothing in the world to do with anything, but thought it was worth mentioning. Try it and see how different things are for you.
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Old 11-01-05, 12:49 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Mine's running really slow. Sometimes a program will take about 1-1/2 minutes to launch. Sometimes it only takes about 30 seconds. I can't figure out why it's faster sometimes than others. Could be the amount of RAM I have available.

Internet Explorer is better. It at least lets me save a picture--well, I tried but it crashed, but the option was there. I was using the ACCESS program but I read on here that it's not compatible.

So far all my programs, even GRIFF, are working with the exception of MidNote. It works but wants to keep installing the MIDI player. Takes forwever to load.

Pretty disappointed with this upgrade. Not worth the $51.96 (tax and shipping), IMO.
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Old 11-01-05, 03:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by BCloud99
I called up Dell, told them this unit might be faulty cause it's extremely slow and it froze a lot. On top of that, i had to soft reset a few times a day. From what i know, this thing should be able to come in and out from standby without freezing. So i got my replacement. It had an updated ROM. Newer than the old one that i sent back.
What was the ROM version that you got? Was the sluggishness from Power On gone?
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Old 11-01-05, 03:30 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I should get my wm5 upgrade cd today but after reading about slowness on the forum i was starting to wish i wasn't. However i found this link to a review for an ipaq 2490 which benchmarks x50, x51v and ipaq and clearly shows that certain things like accessing program menus take 6x's longer in wm5, but apparently other things like video playback and battery life are better in wm5. Since i fly alot (just flew 11 hours on sunday and used my x50v to watch flightplan and listen to mp3's the whole way (with noise cancelling headphones awesome combo) with a standard battery and a double capacity battery getting me barely through the flight) i will give it a shot.

scroll to the middle of the review:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ipaq-hx2490.htm
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Old 11-01-05, 06:32 AM   #21 (permalink)
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A01 ROM, the X50v was slow at first but this morning has really gotten back to the original speed, the calender, email, and the system menus seem to have really speeded up, perhaps as things got loaded into memory? Processor on Auto now and still speedy.
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Old 11-01-05, 06:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jediassassin
On your last point. I have been hearing the the ROM used in the x51v is slower than the type used in the x50v. So if anything, the "newer" devices from Dell may be slower if they use the slow ROM type.

Is any x51v or x50v owners experiencing this?
Something wrong here. I just upgraded to a X51V from a IPAQ 2215. The X51v is MUCH faster and more responsive than the 2215. Very Very happy with the speed of the X51V
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Old 11-01-05, 07:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I like WM5 but I am waiting for A02 already.
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Old 11-01-05, 07:32 AM   #24 (permalink)
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How's the battery life on the upgraded X50v's compared to the stock WM2003SE X50v?
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Old 11-01-05, 07:51 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I have seen all the negatives and I want to just add a positivwe.

I upgraded my Axim last night with no problems at all. My GPS software loaded fine (going to field test it today) and everything seems quicker. Programs start right away and video runs butter smooth.

Before the upgrade I had some kind of memory leak somewhere (even with a clean install). After a couple hours it would just run out of memory especially if I had 2 or 3 programs running. The GPS will be the acid test today. If I went on a 30 mile route it would run out of memory after about 20 miles. But it seems like it runs much better now. Probably because of the way it uses BIS now.

I'm not sure if this made a difference in my smooth install vs. other peoples problems but after backing up what I wanted to keep I removed my SD card and did a hard reset so the upgrade would go on a clean system.

I will post this afternoon after I use the GPS all day and let you know how it went.
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Old 11-01-05, 09:32 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Since both the x50v and x51v have about the same amount of available memory, then both should be configured with the same amount of code paging pool memory. According to Microsoft, the code paging pool is a 1 to 6 meg block of memory that is used to cache program code. So the initial slowness may be due to the axim copying the program to cache and the subsequent speedup is to due to the program being in the cache already. Interesting enough, since the x50v's rom is NOR while the x51v's rom is NAND, the x50v should not need to copy rom programs to cache to run but can use XIP (execute in place). So if Dell configured the x50v wm5 rom correctly, starting oem supplied rom programs such as ie or mobile word should be faster on the x50v than the x51v. Unfortunately, user installed programs, either in BIS or storage card, cannot use XIP and must go through the copy to ram-before-running step. Anyone notice a difference in speed when running an oem program in rom versus a user installed program?
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Old 11-01-05, 02:10 PM   #27 (permalink)
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http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...f0d1a4165fe55e

If the above article is reliable, Dell has stopped shipping the WM5 CDs knowing that they are buggy. The first batch users who received the CDs and upgraded have unfortunately become Dell's guinea pigs - no mercy.

And this is obviously the reason why Dell is providing a rollback solution at http://support.dell.com/support/down...&fileid=145807
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Old 11-01-05, 02:38 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I don't mean to be redundant but has anyone had a positive experience in upgrading?
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Old 11-01-05, 03:04 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Ive got the X51v so cant compare it with the X50v. i do have an ipaq 5455 which has wm2003 (400mhz) and I will agree the X51v (624Mhz) seems to be a little slower to open apps and navigate menu's. BUT .. and I say BUT,
Its faster once the apps/menu's are open and It is VGA so I'll keep it ;-)
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Originally Posted by badbob001
Unfortunately, user installed programs, either in BIS or storage card, cannot use XIP and must go through the copy to ram-before-running step. Anyone notice a difference in speed when running an oem program in rom versus a user installed program?
If I understand it correctly (please correct me if I am off track), pre WM5 OS would copy any programs on a memory card or BIS to RAM before it could run anyway, so there shouldn't be any difference in speed between WM5 and WM2003SE in this case ???
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