Actually since the new WM 5.0 was announced, one of the biggest feature was that from now on, we CAN upgrade OSes as Microsoft pushes them out. Microsoft took that ability from the manufacturers because so many people we unsatisfied with the manufacturers upgrade policies. Also, now that the core of every device is similiar, it'll be more like a PC upgrade and we should expect a more and more unified OS as time goes.
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Originally Posted by cng
Actually since the new WM 5.0 was announced, one of the biggest feature was that from now on, we CAN upgrade OSes as Microsoft pushes them out. Microsoft took that ability from the manufacturers because so many people we unsatisfied with the manufacturers upgrade policies. Also, now that the core of every device is similiar, it'll be more like a PC upgrade and we should expect a more and more unified OS as time goes.
Do you have a link to that info? I'm not trying to be rude; I can imagine after WM5 Microsoft would want to yank things back in-house.
I'd imagine there'll be a lot of heartbreak until things are smoothed over (between drivers and bloat, it should be entertaining ... "This thing is a memory hog, and 4 of the accessories I have aren't supported. I need more drivers and less wasted space!"). :bang:
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Actually since the new WM 5.0 was announced, one of the biggest feature was that from now on, we CAN upgrade OSes as Microsoft pushes them out. Microsoft took that ability from the manufacturers because so many people we unsatisfied with the manufacturers upgrade policies. Also, now that the core of every device is similiar, it'll be more like a PC upgrade and we should expect a more and more unified OS as time goes.
There are certain parts of the OS that CAN be upgraded by Micrsoft and there are then device specific portions that MUST be developed by the vendor.
Is every other WM5 device having the same problems as the X50/X51? No. Which hints to me that it's the specific device customization (ie - non-Microsoft) piece.
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if that bluetooth isn't going to get fixed I will have no other choice but to downgrade and forget about wm5.
I'll just tell all my friends its the newest
hopefully their stupid
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There are certain parts of the OS that CAN be upgraded by Micrsoft and there are then device specific portions that MUST be developed by the vendor.
Is every other WM5 device having the same problems as the X50/X51? No. Which hints to me that it's the specific device customization (ie - non-Microsoft) piece.
I has just recently purchased the Ipaq rx1950, and it is having a lot of similar problems that people on here are complaining about. Activesync staying on, SD card problems, wifi bugs. WM5 glitches all over the place.
My question is, why would they release another OS so soon? Does that not just kill development? If all these programmers have to start for a new OS every year, the industry will never be able to build a stable base of apps like it was done for WM2003. Sure there are bugs in WM5, but sort those out, dont give me a whole new OS!
Bobsf40 - the problem there's that the 1950's a piece of junk, and doesn't have enough RAM for WM5, and ActiveSync takes up what's left. :D The SD card issue may be related to the RAM problem, since WM5 tries to unload things it doesn't need to recover system RAM... and the DLLs which handle that SD slot may become a casualty of that lack of RAM. After all, it only has 32MB of RAM, and WM5 alone takes up 14-16MB of it.... and then you've got the GWES.exe cache, which continues to take up more RAM, until you're left with 10-11MB on start - and it only goes down from there.
I haven't seen as many complaints about disappearing slots on the 2790/2490 series; just on the upgraded 2750s/2410's - I suspect that Dell buggered up something in their WM5 implementation, since an hx2490 on startup with no Today PAnel software gets about 45MB of RAM free at start, and the Axim x51 gets maybe 40MB from what I recall.
If they do an upgrade, Microsoft that is, I suspect this will be more in the line of a Win98SE release than a Windows XP-style one; a major bugfix disguised as a new OS.
Bobsf40 - the problem there's that the 1950's a piece of junk, and doesn't have enough RAM for WM5, and ActiveSync takes up what's left. :D The SD card issue may be related to the RAM problem, since WM5 tries to unload things it doesn't need to recover system RAM... and the DLLs which handle that SD slot may become a casualty of that lack of RAM. After all, it only has 32MB of RAM, and WM5 alone takes up 14-16MB of it.... and then you've got the GWES.exe cache, which continues to take up more RAM, until you're left with 10-11MB on start - and it only goes down from there.
Well yeah that too, lol. Hence the reason I am sending it back, and have just ordered a X51v :D. Major step up eh?
I realised that there wasnt enough RAM to properly run the Ipaq, and since I'm usually a power user of technology, i realised that I need something that is better for the future, not adequate for now.
I really do hope its a major overhaul rather than new OS, i would really like to start buying software to use for it, and not have to upgrade in a year and buy all new software.
Well yeah that too, lol. Hence the reason I am sending it back, and have just ordered a X51v :D. Major step up eh?
I realised that there wasnt enough RAM to properly run the Ipaq, and since I'm usually a power user of technology, i realised that I need something that is better for the future, not adequate for now.
I really do hope its a major overhaul rather than new OS, i would really like to start buying software to use for it, and not have to upgrade in a year and buy all new software.
Where I come from, getting a more powerful machine is called an 'upgrade'. :D I'd have gone for an X50v myself, in your shoes, but hopefully you'll get lucky with the X51v and find one without a lot of the problems some of the other early-adopters here have run into (disappearing CF/SD slots, random lockups, ActiveSync always running, quick-draining batteries).
I suspect that any new releases of WM5 will be like 2003SE, which was effectively a huge bugfix/service pack, with the addition of Landscape Mode.
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