Notices

Windows Mobile 5 No more Magneto!

View Poll Results: Will you upgrade to WM2005 and give up ActiveSync over Wifi?
Yes 110 51.89%
No 102 48.11%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-11-05, 11:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
Aximsite Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 74
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wifi ActiveSync gone with WinMobile 2005

Will you upgrade to Magneto knowing that you'll never ActiveSync your Axim over wifi?

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...ic.php?t=39975

I'm voting no - I'm not going to pay $20+ to go back to the USB cradle. Same with Bluetooth, I'm not happy with the speeds and I frequently copy 500ish meg of audio/video over to my SD card.

Last edited by BoogerFace; 05-11-05 at 11:31 AM. Reason: fixed typo in title
BoogerFace is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsor Ads
Old 05-11-05, 11:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
Aximsite All Star
 
ironhelix's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: -=matrix , near toronto , canada =-
Posts: 767
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Awards Showcase
Aximsite Active Bronze Member 
Total Awards: 1

it all depends on how you perceive this feature,

after all wifi is so unprotected, maybe doing sync trough

usb is a security feature. that way M$ washes their hands

from the total lack of said security, related to wifi .
ironhelix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 11:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
Aximsite Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 74
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I use it a lot - my cradle isn't even in the same room as the PC.

The only time I've connected the cradle via USB was to do the A03 upgrade.
BoogerFace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 11:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
rob61280
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I interpreted remote sycning to mean over the internet, meaning you could still sync using wifi on you lan/wlan. I may be wrong though?

R
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 11:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
Aximsite Legend
 
Howard2k's Avatar
Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 13,721
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

Awards Showcase
Aximsite Active Silver Member Moderator Medal Silver Poster 
Total Awards: 3

They've removed the capability to sync via an IP Connection. Whether it's Wifi, wired Ethernet or whatever.

I'm not sure I buy the security argument if they're pointing the finger at Wifi as the weakest link. Sure it CAN be setup badly (and often is) but saying "Wifi is insecure" is like saying that "guns kill people". There's a little more involved.

Either way - looks like a dumb idea to me. Very, very dumb.
__________________
Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it.
Howard2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 11:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
bigdave240
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Utterly rediculous! Maybe they are trying to beef up their motherboard business? Really though, I use this feature all the time so I don't have to be sitting at the PC to sync, install programs, etc. this doesn't make sense.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 12:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
Aximsite Minor League
 
BradleyUffner's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hummelstown, PA
Posts: 263
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Where did you get the information that it was removed? I remember seeing something that it was not present in the LEAKED BETA build of active sync 4 Maby we should all wait until it is actually released before concluding that it will be absent. I do remember seeing something about being able to sync over BlueTooth in a new artical about Active sync 4, so That makes be doubt that Syncing over IP option being removed is just an assumption. I think it makes more sence that the option to enabke it was removed from activesync because it is now enabled by default. Again, I could be wrong, but I don't like jumping to conclusions too quickly.
BradleyUffner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 12:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
Aximsite Alumnus
 
Martin's Avatar
Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: U.K.
Posts: 3,030
Device: Blackberry 8900
Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
I'm not fussed with upgrading anyway, but this is a big negative for me. To not be able to sync via wifi (especially when you sync to more than one computer and you've only got one cradle, or if you're in one room of your house working and your computer is idling in your office upstairs, etc) would remove one of the principle uses for my Axim at the moment.

A ridiculous idea. Why don't they just get rid of wifi support altogether? Surely that's more secure...!
__________________
Newest
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
___________________________
Martin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 01:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
Aximsite Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 74
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BradleyUffner
Where did you get the information that it was removed? I remember seeing something that it was not present in the LEAKED BETA build of active sync 4 Maby we should all wait until it is actually released before concluding that it will be absent. I do remember seeing something about being able to sync over BlueTooth in a new artical about Active sync 4, so That makes be doubt that Syncing over IP option being removed is just an assumption. I think it makes more sence that the option to enabke it was removed from activesync because it is now enabled by default. Again, I could be wrong, but I don't like jumping to conclusions too quickly.
From the WM2005 fact sheet:

· ActiveSync® 4.0 support. Windows Mobile 5.0 offers users new features such as the ability to sync pictures in contacts and wirelessly sync over Bluetooth®, as well as an improved partnership wizard and an improved overall synchronization experience.

My take is Wifi is out but Bluetooth is in.
BoogerFace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 01:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
Aximsite Legend
 
Howard2k's Avatar
Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 13,721
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

Awards Showcase
Aximsite Active Silver Member Moderator Medal Silver Poster 
Total Awards: 3

Bluetooth was already very much in. :)
__________________
Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it.
Howard2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 01:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
bigdave240
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I think it is in how you interprate that message. So we will probably have to wait until it comes out. I just can't see them doing away with wifi sync. that sentence says "offers new features" but not that anything else is going away.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 02:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
Aximsite Minor League
 
BradleyUffner's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hummelstown, PA
Posts: 263
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It says Blue tooth is a NEW feature, Nothing in there says the Wireless sync is going away.
BradleyUffner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 02:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
Aximsite Legend
 
Howard2k's Avatar
Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 13,721
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

Awards Showcase
Aximsite Active Silver Member Moderator Medal Silver Poster 
Total Awards: 3

I don't think THAT particular quote is the origin of the claim that Wifi sync is gone. If you look around for other posts (here and other sites) about Wifi with AS 4 you'll see similar comments.

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...ght=activesync
__________________
Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it.
Howard2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-05, 02:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
Aximsite Alumnus
 
Martin's Avatar
Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: U.K.
Posts: 3,030
Device: Blackberry 8900
Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Plus Jason Dunn over at PPCThoughts stated that the MVPs had rallied against it, but MS had gone ahead and removed it anyway. He's not known, as far as I'm aware, for stating falsehoods.
__________________
Newest
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
___________________________
Martin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-05, 12:14 AM   #15 (permalink)
Aximsite Major League
 
Kamokazi's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: West-Central Ohio
Posts: 450
Device: Motorola v710
Carrier: Verizon
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Just saw this too. Shouldn't it still be possible for a 3rd party workaround?
__________________
Axim X50v
WM 2003 SE
1GB Sandisk Ultra II SD Card
1GB Sandisk Ultra II SD Plus USB Card
Innopocket Magnesium Case
Think Outside BlueTooth Keyboard & Mouse
SONY MD-EX71SL Earbuds

Axim X5 Advanced
DELL TrueMobile Wifi CF Card
Socket BlueTooth CF Card
Rhinoskin Aluminum Case

and Apps > Sig space...
Kamokazi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
2005, activesync, wifi, winmobile

Sponsor Ads

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:54 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0
Copyright © 2003-09 LeckMedia, LLC