I saw that the X50v is going to get the upgrade to WM5. I saw that one of the major features is the moving of data to flash and running programs to RAM only. My question is how well will the X50v cope with this as it was built with RAM being used more and therefore built faster and the ROM was built for the OS only. I have read that the BIS is slower than say SD so I was wondering if this would affect performance. I am considering upgrading to VGA from my trusty X3 but was wondering how future proof the X50v is as there will be many more new VGA devices. This will make my decision on upgrading as I would like both VGA and WM5 and if it isnt as good as future ones built solely for WM5 then it wouldn't be woth me upgrading yet.

Thanks for any comments/views.

Well there will always be something new around the corner. If you NEED to upgrade now then the X50V is the way to go. If you don't NEED to upgrade now then don't upgrade. Wait till you do (or you can make the jump for very little cash)

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I haven't seen any tests/benchmarks or anything, but I can't imagine the ROM being slower than a storage card. ROM is generally much faster than even RAM, hence one reason that system files are loaded on it to begin with (plus the fact that data won't be lost without power).

I don't imagine that there would be any memory management problems related to the hardware itself.

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This may sound stupid, but if ROM is faster than RAM why are programs (applications) installed (by default) to RAM rather than to ROM?.

This is just an observation: I re-installed Avantgo to ROM (BIS) since I subscribe to a ton of channels and I would get "low memory" warnings from my Axim. I noticed a marked slow-down of Avantgo (displaying channel content etc.) running from ROM.

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ROM (BIS) is much slower then RAM on my x50v.

. . . and BIS may be slower than SD card as well.

I too have an X3i, and am considering holding out for the next Axim model. I'm hoping the device and cradle be USB 2.0, since WM 5 supports it. Hopefully the SD slot will support higher read/write speeds. We'll have to wait and see

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Benchmarking BetaPlayer RAM is faster than ROM (BIS) which is faster than SD storage.

One thing about all this RAM ROM stuff what I am concerned about is if I loose my virtual memory.... PIE and Netfront 3 will write to my ROM continiously when I browse and I know flash memory has write limitations. The reason I am concerned is web cache well... writes a lot of junk....

  

I think you answered your own question.

Just wait for the new devices ... and possibly WM5 SP2, code-name Photon, or whatever they're going to name it.

So many programs, not enough ROM

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I think writing to BIS is slower than SD.

I have a suspicion that the browsers will temporarily store cache in the RAM, and when you close the browser it will copy to ROM. I don't know this for sure, but it makes sense. The best suggestion for them would be to allow the user to specify a cache directory if they want to, and then you could just stick them on a storage card.

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You can search for it in the forums, but this is true. The write time of the BIS is slower than CF and SD card! Just go to this thread and he runs a benchmark: http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...light=BIS+slow

Don't some web browsers already allow you to specify the cache directory? Or is it that you have to use MemMaid to specify where to put the cookies, TMP internet files, and other stuff?

I was about to ask this very question after I had checked out todays new posts. I know that my BIS is fast enough to read from, so I have my applications installed there, but is very slow to write to. Now - using the diary or contacts will obviously require constant reading and writing and so they are going to be slower than they are at the moment with the databases in RAM and there is this limited number of BIS writes that are allowed.

Does this mean that WM5 is really only for future devices with faster ROM?

probably there will be some kind of cache in RAM for faster read/write.