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Old 05-14-05, 08:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Windows Mobile 5 and Battery Life for X50v

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With the new memory management system in WM5 will battery life be better than with WM2003SE?

Just wondering since power for keeping data RAM like now, will not be needed?

Thanks for the info....
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Old 05-14-05, 10:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not inherently. Only during a full power off will you be saving battery. Most of the time you will still suspend your PPC, kind of like standby for a cell phone.
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Old 05-14-05, 11:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd like to see the logistics of how this feature works. At this point, it sounds very similar to the Windows Hibernate feature.
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Old 05-14-05, 11:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hibernate is really cool though, except for its tendency to get slow and clunky after about 3 months' use.
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What do you mean by "Slow & clunky"? I'm curious, I just started using this feature about 2 weeks ago.
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But really, "hibernating" is what our PocketPCs are currently doing now when you press the power button or power off. I'm sure that aspect of it will remain the same, so that you have instant accessibility to your data whenever you turn it on..... as opposed to waiting on it to load the OS. For the "everyday" use of a PDA, this is what you would be wanting to use. However, I hope they include a TRUE power-off function for those times when you know you won't be touching the device for a day or two.... so that the battery doesn't get drained.

For example, I usually just close the lid of my laptop (sleep mode) if I'm just leaving it unused for an hour or so. But if I'm gone longer than that, I'll usually power it off to keep the battery from draining due to the data still being stored in RAM.

So I've got my fingers crossed that this will be a feature. :)
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Originally Posted by carrigaline
Hi,

With the new memory management system in WM5 will battery life be better than with WM2003SE?

Just wondering since power for keeping data RAM like now, will not be needed?

Thanks for the info....
M$ states a 30% battery life increase with new Mem Mang sys.

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That would certainly be one of the best things to happen with WM5!!
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That would certainly be one of the best things to happen with WM5!!
Hope to see it soon, and that the upgrade won't be too expansive.:)
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I think 30% may be a bit high. However I have noticed a huge increase in battery life since going to A03. Maybe Dell has already started using some of the tech? Since the battery did not get stronger I asume it is the way it is used. If you have not seen the life increase since going to A03 try using the power setting a auto now. Before I found it did not ramp up quick enough so I stayed on high most of the time. Now it performs great and powers way down when not needed even if not needed. Even have been using wifi battery save with no ill effects.
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Originally Posted by francesco_q
That would certainly be one of the best things to happen with WM5!!
Hope to see it soon, and that the upgrade won't be too expansive.:)
Actually I hope it is real expansive with lots of good stuff, just not too expEnsive
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But really, "hibernating" is what our PocketPCs are currently doing now when you press the power button or power off.
Not exactly hibernating, more like "Standby". In Hibernation, all data in memory is written to the hiberfile.sys file on the hard drive, thenthe device completely powers down. In standby mode, the data is not written to a file, but the machine is placed in a very low power state, thus consuming battery power.
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Originally Posted by wooch
Not exactly hibernating, more like "Standby". In Hibernation, all data in memory is written to the hiberfile.sys file on the hard drive, thenthe device completely powers down. In standby mode, the data is not written to a file, but the machine is placed in a very low power state, thus consuming battery power.
@ wooch - BTW this is why after a while the hybern. state gets slow and clunky - you have to clean up the hiberfile.... :)
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Old 05-15-05, 09:07 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Cool, thanks Jukov. However, whenever I do a weekly image of my C partition, I disable hibernation, and hence the hiberfile.sys file disappears. I reboot, image the machine, reboot again, then re-enable hibernation. Wouldn't this create a fresh hiberfile, or does Windows just hide the file? Also, how does one go about "cleaning up" their hiberfile? :)
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Finally!

Originally Posted by pkenyon
M$ states a 30% battery life increase with new Mem Mang sys.

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Excellent! :approve:
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