Xcaliber

Quick question about ROM updates and how they relate to Operating System updates: are the Dell ROM updates necessary when we eventually update to Windows Mobile 5?
Are these updates independent of each other so that if you update to WM5 when it becomes available, you also may want to update to whatever the latest Dell ROM update is (maybe 04 by that time)?
If that is the case and you have the X50 that you will be upgrading to WM5 when it comes out, it would be easier to wait and upgrade the ROM and OS at the same time to avoid the hassel of reloading all your Main Memory software multiple times.

Howard2k

The ROM updates update part of the OS. So the ROM updates for the X50 now (A03?) are for WM2003SE. When WM5 is released Dell might call the first WM5 ROM A04. Or they might do something else But there will then be two paths, a ROM update path for WM2003SE and a ROM update path for WM5.

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havanna

...but will the WM5 update have the device fixes from AO3 (ie the wireless issue patch)?

psionandy

Originally Posted by havanna

...but will the WM5 update have the device fixes from AO3 (ie the wireless issue patch)?

Does windows xp include the windows 98 patches?????

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havanna

Originally Posted by psionandy

Does windows xp include the windows 98 patches?????

Nice, and ever-so-helpful . Is not the AO3 patch a device patch - unrelated to the OS? So, again, my question is, and without psionandy's two cents, will the WM5 from Dell include the patches that were in AO3, or do I need to download AO3 to get those patches?

Howard2k

Neither. As I said, it's part of the OS. The OS comes from Microsoft and further work is done by the vendors to ensure that it's ready for their devices. This is why the ROM updates are specific to each device, but may include new functionality from Microsoft.

So WM5 being a different product family from WM2003SE (just like XP and 98 being different) they may or may not include the fixes. But you would not run a WM2003SE ROM update on a WM5 machine. It will be documented and Dell should ensure that the installation will not execute.

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psionandy

Originally Posted by havanna

Nice, and ever-so-helpful . Is not the AO3 patch a device patch - unrelated to the OS? So, again, my question is, and without psionandy's two cents, will the WM5 from Dell include the patches that were in AO3, or do I need to download AO3 to get those patches?

Sorry you didn't find it helpful.. I was asking a rhetorical question to illustrate the point, and try to clarify the question.

Windows XP does not need the patches from windows 98 as it is a different product. However many of the problems (and security issues) that existed in 98 are addressed directly in windows xp*)

Other issues in windows XP are addressed by updates to the os itself.

With Windows mobile at the moment the way that Microsoft (and its oem s) choose to apply these fixes is with a ROM update (eg A03) which re-installs the OS and the fixes at the same time. This may change in the future.

I'm sorry you failed to see my point - And until you have a copy of WM5 you don't need to worry about it anyway!







*I realise that this isn't a perfect metaphor and there are all sorts of techie issues that i am glossing over... but bear with me.

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kronchev

Originally Posted by havanna

Nice, and ever-so-helpful . Is not the AO3 patch a device patch - unrelated to the OS? So, again, my question is, and without psionandy's two cents, will the WM5 from Dell include the patches that were in AO3, or do I need to download AO3 to get those patches?

abstract thinking, learn it


as he explained his point was XP doesnt need to be fixed the way that 98 did. in much the same way, a car from 2005 does not need to undergo recalls that might affect a car from 1990. Different products entirely.

ROM on a PDA is the actual OS. ROM updates are patches for the current OS. An update to WM5 will be in the form of a ROM update. Updating from say A00-A03 will fix issues with the current version of WM, but updating to A04 (assuming thats when WM5 comes in) will completly change the OS.

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stv516

In essence, WM5 upgrade is a ROM upgrade.

Like what you did in A02 & A03 upgrade, upgrading procedure should be the same:
you download the upgrade program from their web site or get it from a CD,
and run the program to reflash the ROM. after that, the ROM becomes WM5.

Think of it as just a renaming from A02/A03 to WM5 A01.

Originally Posted by kronchev

abstract thinking, learn it as he explained his point was XP doesnt need to be fixed the way that 98 did. in much the same way, a car from 2005 does not need to undergo recalls that might affect a car from 1990. Different products entirely. ROM on a PDA is the actual OS. ROM updates are patches for the current OS. An update to WM5 will be in the form of a ROM update. Updating from say A00-A03 will fix issues with the current version of WM, but updating to A04 (assuming thats when WM5 comes in) will completly change the OS.

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Steven87

I have got a Toshiba e400(my old pda, now got X50v) and to update that to 2003se you first needed to update the ROM. The ROM update would also update 2003 and updating the ROM didn't mean that you had to update to 2003se, so I think that OS updates and ROM updates are separate to each other, but they do relate to each other.

3ace

Think of it as just a renaming from A02/A03 to WM5 A01.[/quote]


why not just, B01?

tancerman

why not just, B01?
Because revisions always start with A.

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