The only reason I was really hoping for WM6 was because of the upgraded "remote desktop" client.
I use my Axim PDA mostly for on-call remote management of our office network and servers. I used to use a Ipaq 2215, however found the 320x240 screen a little hard to use for remote desktop.
That's why I moved to the Axim X51v, however I was dissapointed to see that the terminal services client in WM5 still had the "limiting" features as WM2003, such as 256 colour max. support.
When I heard they revamped the Terminal Services / Remote Desktop Client in WM6, that was the main reason I was HOPING for an update to my axim as they have now included 16-bit colour support and full-screen mode.
The Good News is I found someone who had extraced the Remote Desktop files from WM6, found that it worked in WM5 and packaged them up in a CAB file. Because of that, I now have the Remote Desktop feature in WM5 and I now really don't have a strong need for them to release a WM6 upgrade anymore.
But then again.... if they ever released it, I'd probably upgrade ;)
Gramzster, where'd you get that cab?
That is one of a few I was looking for.
Though if it only runs through the BT connection then forget it. I could only use it through a Wi-Fi (pc connector).
at home it's pointless since I can walk to the PC.
(hmm my post with the links didn't show up, and re-posting said it has already has been posted..... to post with links need to be approved before they show up?)
If you go to google and do a search for WM6 RDP-Finster (which is the file name), you'll find the file.
Noiro, it works just like Terminal Services Client, so you can connect via any connection you want.
Well WM5 came out for the Axim x50 while the x51v was out.
Your argument is not valid. To say that Dell already has your money and wouldn't benefit from making an upgrade.... ok.
Then why would they make a WM5 upgrade for x50? They already got your money. How would they benefit from that? How is this any different?
Using your logic, why would any company "waste" money on new upgrades when they can just force everyone to buy the next model up (or somewhere else, in dells case).
If a PPC manufacture created an upgrade while the next model up came stock with it... wouldn't they be LOSING money from the sale and delaying the customer from having to spend hundreds of dollars on a hardware upgrade? If Dell stops making PPC's, ok. Then they got nothing to lose from a sales standpoint. The only thing they invest is time and money for research.
And you know Dell buys licenses in bulk... so that if the end customer pays $30 for a license, dell maybe spends $10 or $15. Trust me... Dell gets BIG discounts from MS. No company will sell ANYTHING without making a profit.
So do the math. How many Dell Axims are out there? How many are left?
50,000? 100,000? 500,000? Say they make at least $5 a license. Yea theres plenty of room for a profit in there.
And the #1 reason they'll come out with a WM6 upgrade... to keep their customers with Dell (if only for computers). Just because a company stops production, doesn't mean they will stop support. Dell is not stupid. The last thing they want to end their chapter with a good ending. Why get rid of an entire department only to realize that you've got a mob of angry customers and your stuck with them slamming your business all over? I think they've done a really good job thus far. The x50 with WM5 was patched and running well. Like stated in the original post, WM6 is only an "upgrade" so there shouldn't be any bugs if any at all. Just take the basics from WM5 and apply them to WM6 and get it working.
Honestly I'm not worried about it. I know someone will make a WM6 Rom for our Axim's. The questions is does dell want the money for it or not?
Just my 2 cents. I'm just tired of all the pessimists around here... sounds like my wife.
actually YOUR argument is not valid.
1. dell has your money
2. dell stopped development of Axim
3. dell will not sell more Axims
If 1,2 and 3 are true that there is no need to keep potential PDA customers happy because they won't be producing any more axims
now there for X50 argument
1. dell has your money
2. dell stopped development of axim
3. dell will not sell more Axims
Only 1 was true at the time that X50 was released. 2 and 3 were not true so dells better interest was to introduce WM5 update so that people will buy X51V.
conclusion: dell will not release update to keep potential PDA customers happy because there will be no more PDA from Dell and no need to keep those customers happy. however dell could release update to keep dell customers happy so that PDA owners go on and buy other dell products.
big question: does dell wants to keep their customers happy? In my opinion it makes sense for dell to release update to WM6 unless its costs are prohibitive. From releasing their update they will benefit having future customers for other products such as possible tablets, PDA phones or even regular laptops.
(hmm my post with the links didn't show up, and re-posting said it has already has been posted..... to post with links need to be approved before they show up?)
If you go to google and do a search for WM6 RDP-Finster (which is the file name), you'll find the file.
Noiro, it works just like Terminal Services Client, so you can connect via any connection you want.
Wow and its waaay better, still can't do all I expected though...
Nice, within 2 minutes it was on my unit. Thanks.
LOL If we could port PM-S for encryption and the WM6 Outlook client :up_to_som hehe...
Damn, from the way things are going we'll probably be able to "frankenize" WM5 with most of 6's features. If people keep this up...
Windows Mobile 5 Franken-rip has a nice ring to it...
(hmm my post with the links didn't show up, and re-posting said it has already has been posted..... to post with links need to be approved before they show up?)
Sorry about that. It's a new anti-spam feature. Your post has been restored.
The X50 was still a new product when WM5 came out, but that is when Dell left us X30 users behind. That was my first Axim, but X3/X5 users probably had similar experiences with earlier releases of new versions of the PPC OS.
Originally Posted by matt_90048
actually YOUR argument is not valid.
1. dell has your money
2. dell stopped development of Axim
conclusion: dell will not release update to keep potential PDA customers happy because there will be no more PDA from Dell and no need to keep those customers happy. however dell could release update to keep dell customers happy so that PDA owners go on and buy other dell products.
big question: does dell wants to keep their customers happy? In my opinion it makes sense for dell to release update to WM6 unless its costs are prohibitive. From releasing their update they will benefit having future customers for other products such as possible tablets, PDA phones or even regular laptops.
actually YOUR argument is not valid.
1. dell has your money
2. dell stopped development of Axim
3. dell will not sell more Axims
If 1,2 and 3 are true that there is no need to keep potential PDA customers happy because they won't be producing any more axims
now there for X50 argument
1. dell has your money
2. dell stopped development of axim
3. dell will not sell more Axims
Only 1 was true at the time that X50 was released. 2 and 3 were not true so dells better interest was to introduce WM5 update so that people will buy X51V.
conclusion: dell will not release update to keep potential PDA customers happy because there will be no more PDA from Dell and no need to keep those customers happy. however dell could release update to keep dell customers happy so that PDA owners go on and buy other dell products.
big question: does dell wants to keep their customers happy? In my opinion it makes sense for dell to release update to WM6 unless its costs are prohibitive. From releasing their update they will benefit having future customers for other products such as possible tablets, PDA phones or even regular laptops.
For the x50... why would they provide an update to WM5 for the x50? WM5 + x50 = x51. Dell wouldn't put out an updated OS if they wanted you to just buy the upgraded model.
Like I said, it doesn't matter whether there will be a new model or not. Part of being a good business is keeping customers happy. They won't shut down the PPC devision until they know their devices are good and customers are happy.
The reason they won't just up and quit, for example, is what if our axims were ticking time bombs and lets just say they all stopped working 8/8/7. With no PPC department, who would fix 'em?
And like stated... WM6 is just an updated WM5. Nothing has changed much except some of the code was tightened up.
You don't up and leave anything hanging... especially if you can't go back to fix it if something breaks. It's not only bad business, but bad moral. Dell will right things, even if it takes them 2 years ;)
And I'm sure that the x30 users agree with you, given the regular ROM updated they've seen since WM5 came out, along with the x51... you can point those out to me, right? Those guys sure get a lot of support, because Dell won't abandon its old users pb older machines once the new OS shows up. Heck, they're still shipping WM 20003SE disks, aren't they?
And hey, Microsoft wouldn't abandon the millions using Windows 98, right? I mean, of there are a lot of users of older hardware and operating systems, it makes no sense to cut them off, especially given that there are currently more of them than there are users of Vista... Wait, I forgot that Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 98 through XP SP1.
They ARE shutting down their PDA department! The PPCs are good with or without WM6, they are working fine with WM5, so why would they make an upgrade, and deal with all the problems of getting WM6 to work, fixing bugs, making ROMs, etc.
Originally Posted by Haesslich
And hey, Microsoft wouldn't abandon the millions using Windows 98, right? I mean, of there are a lot of users of older hardware and operating systems, it makes no sense to cut them off, especially given that there are currently more of them than there are users of Vista... Wait, I forgot that Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 98 through XP SP1.
Microsoft would like for old devices to get upgrades, but it is not their decision! If they do get upgrades, Microsoft gets money, but the manufactures don't. If Microsoft COULD make upgrades for each and every device, there would be, but its up to the manufacture.
WM6 seems no more "compatible" with Vista then WM5 to me. I have used both on Vista, they function exactly the same.
WM6 doesn't do anything that WM5 can't.
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