WM6 Upgrade for Axims - NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

03-03-07, 02:23 PM

I do not understand why people here are wasting countless hours looking for a WM6 upgrade for the Axim. It will not happen.
Dell has stated that it will not longer make Axims. There is no motive for them to make an upgrade! It costs a lot of money, and they only sell it for as much as the license costs. The only reason companies make upgrades is to keep people happy so the next device they purchase is from the same company.
Dell already has your money, and will not be releasing another Axim, so they do not need to keep you happy, because the next device you buy will not be from them either way.
Some people have found a "Universal ROM", let me tell you this will not work! The Universal ROM is for the HTC Universal (a pocket pc phone). Google HTC Universal and you can see what device it is. If you somehow manage to get the ROM to start flashing into your Axim, it WILL BE BRICKED! I do not know if it can be flashed back to an Axim ROM.

If you want WM6 NOW, sell your Axim and buy either an HTC Wizard or HTC Hermes. Those have leaked beta WM6 ROMs that you can use. You could also wait some months and get a device that comes with WM6. Whatever you do, you will not get WM6 working on your axim. I have tried WM6 on my HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125), and it basically is just WM5 with AKU 3.3, a nicer skin, .NET CF 2.0 preloaded and some phone dialer enhancements! AKU 3.3 for WM5 was improvements for converged devices like the internet sharing program, direct push, etc.

So to summarize, each device must have the OS custom made to work on it. A ROM from one device will NOT work on another. The only reason manufactures release OS upgrades is to keep the consumer happy so their next purchase will be from that company, but Dell will not be making another Axim and already has your money, so there is no benefit, they would actually LOOSE money making an upgrade.
WM6 classic is no different then WM5 with .NET CF 2.0 and Windows Live loaded on. It just has a nicer skin.

Although I am no longer a frequent visitor of Aximsite (I no longer own an Axim), I found this REALLY annoying. Please, use this forum to discuss the OS or the OS on other devices, but do not whine and moan about not being able to get it for the Axim, as it will not happen.

**Frenchy** · 03-03-07, 02:43 PM

What about feedom of speach and the right to state your ideas and feelings. As long as it pertain to PPC it is fine to be posted here.

03-03-07, 02:48 PM

I do not see the benefit of people asking for a WM6 upgrade though, Aximsite is not Dell, and asking for it will not get you it.

borgyn · 03-03-07, 02:50 PM

Hear Hear Andre

03-03-07, 03:18 PM

You could run a similar argument months ago with the X50 series. That is no longer being produced and it was still offered for a price. So can WM6 classic, which is in more demand consumer wise than WM5.

Not saying I demand it but I can't see it getting dismissed without a price people are willing to pay, even if it ends up being buggy like the jungle.

Also check out "Idea Storm" by Dell, a valid argument goes along way, with alot of people that is. :p

Box · 03-03-07, 03:19 PM

If it annoys you or you aren't interested then don't read it.

valvestem · 03-03-07, 03:24 PM

My computer can scroll past all the stuff I don't like or care to read, maybe you could try that.

03-03-07, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by mrp04

WM6 classic is no different then WM5 with .NET CF 2.0 and Windows Live loaded on. It just has a nicer skin.

it has windows update.

jadesse · 03-03-07, 07:45 PM

I don't see why everyone is pissing & moaning about getting WM6 either. As I see no benefit in having the new OS. It is just something new that a few people just have to have because it is the newest thing. Besides how long did it before WM5 became main stream? At this time last year there was only a handful of devices shipping with it. I say don't worry about WM6 until it does come out & make your assessments then. I'll bet when it does become main stream there will be better & faster devices than the current ones that are available. Then buy the newest device loaded with the newest OS.

rumble291 · 03-03-07, 07:50 PM

Your saying were moaning about wanting WM6 but your whinning about not wanting WM6 you also PMed me to say that there isnt a rom yes we know there isnt a WM6 rom for the axim why would we be searching for it? If you actually are employeed at dell and your in the future plans department or something to do with future upgrades then you can say that there isnt WM6 for Axims but because your not you dont know if there is going to be an update or not no one nos for sure if there is going to be an update. How do you know that the Axim will be bricked if you install a Universal rom onto it? you can go ahead and try it if you want

03-04-07, 12:01 AM

rumble: Do you remember what I said about trying to install one computer's backup onto a completely different system with different hardware? A WM ROM flash is just like that; unless the hardware on the device you're flashing is identical to that of the drivers in the ROM flash... you're running the very high risk that it'll just whitescreen, if it boots at all. Right now, trying to put an HTC Universal ROM onto an Axim is something akin to trying to take an Intel Core 2 Duo-based Dell Inspiron that uses onboard video, and trying to install the backup CD's image onto an HP that uses an AMD processor with an ATI x1650 video card.

Hell, even with the RIGHT firmware you run the risk of bricking your Axim when you flash it. But at least you know with the correct firmware (certified for that Axim), that it'll boot up normally if the flash succeeds. If you're so confident you know better than everyone else - by all means, go ahead and try to hex-edit that Universal ROM and then put it onto your Axim. We do want to see the results, especially if it bricks your device. ;)

03-04-07, 12:12 AM

If you hang around xda-developers, it is common sense that a ROM for one device will not work on another. It just does not work with embedded devices, or even a full Windows OS just like Haesslich said!

No no one "nos" for sure, but there will most likely 99.9% not be a WM6 upgrade. If you have read a recent article on Aximsite saying that Dell will be exiting the PDA market, you know they will remove the Axim from their site right when their last unit is sold. Since they make no money when they sell you a Windows Mobile upgrade (They sell them for $30, the cost of a Windows Mobile license), and it will not help push the unit or any future unit, there is absolutely no reason to make one. They will loose money developing it, and they will also loose money from bricked Axims during the upgrade (yes, it even sometimes happens on the devices the ROM was designed for, very rarely though).

frenchie · 03-04-07, 12:12 AM

Why don't we put all of our anger and flames to good use and support the Linux Project. That upgrade would certainly bring a much improved experience to an Axim user.

kronchev · 03-04-07, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by frenchie

Why don't we put all of our anger and flames to good use and support the Linux Project. That upgrade would certainly bring a much improved experience to an Axim user.

Except that it might get Linux on my PDA and then I'll have to brick it :(

frenchie · 03-04-07, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by kronchev

then I'll have to brick it :(

What? No you won't. If the flash goes successfully then you'll have a perfectly running handheld.