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Old 02-13-06, 12:16 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Oh, and as for sticking the wires to the battery, electrical tape :-)
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Old 08-09-06, 09:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Backup Battery for Axim X3
I found a website that offers parts for the Dell Axim.

They don't list is on the web page, but, I contacted them via e-mail and they say they have OEM Dell Batteries that are new.

They have them in stock but are $25.00.

However, these are the OEM batteries with the leeds and connector.

I will post after I get one to let you know how it worked.

If you are interested, the website is www.pdasmart.com
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Old 08-09-06, 09:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I just took my dell axim x3 apart. This battery is wrapped in green heatshrink plastic with two wires attached to it. This battery will have to be replaced I am going to try Radio Shack for the entire piece which includes the end which slides into the slot in the board and is connected to the battery. The Dell Axim is quite a piece of work. I have removed the back up battery from my machine and the backup battery pop up warning still pops up on my handheld. Now that is a glitch in the matrix. I will post a note if I find this at Radio Shack.
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Old 08-10-06, 01:26 PM   #34 (permalink)
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so you can't replace the bub for the x30 or can you?
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Old 08-16-06, 03:17 PM   #35 (permalink)
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www.pdasmart.com rocks!
It worked!

The battery that I ordered from www.pdasmart.com worked great.

They sent it fully assembled with wires and connector. It even had the adhesive on it with a piece of wax paper, so the battery would stay in place once in the Axim X3. The total with shipping was $33. A little high compared to the other posts, but this is the only place I have found that gives you a no-brainer solution.

If you don't want to send your pda back to Dell or construct the battery yourself, this is a great option.
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Old 09-08-06, 09:54 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I got the BUB from pdasmart and installed it. Everything went together just fine and started back up. The problem is nothing has changed. I have had it on the charger for three days now, with the main battiery in and out, and it still says the BUB is very low. For some reason it is not charging.

Any ideas?
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Old 09-09-06, 02:16 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ses50
I got the BUB from pdasmart and installed it. Everything went together just fine and started back up. The problem is nothing has changed. I have had it on the charger for three days now, with the main battiery in and out, and it still says the BUB is very low. For some reason it is not charging.

Any ideas?

Have you done a hard reset to let it redetect the new battery?
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Old 05-25-07, 08:42 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Hello everybody,

following the replacement procedure described in this thread, I replaced the backup battery of my Axim X30h with a new Varta V20HR I ordered.

After charging the X30 for almost 40 hours (while being powered on), I still get the "abnormal"-warning for my backup battery.
I did a Soft- and a Hardreset, but it doesn't change anything.

Any suggestions?

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Old 06-07-07, 03:48 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I am not mechanical. Has anyone sent their unit back to dell for a BUB replacement; if so, how much?
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Old 06-08-07, 09:02 PM   #40 (permalink)
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What happens when the backup battery will not charge
I have an X3 and it goes through the set up phaze then tells me the backup battery is very low I click OK then it tells me the "Tour error" "(System) there was a problem creating the tour interface (tour.Xml)" I click OK and I get a green screen with circles on angain telling me the backupbattery is very low and a ready message I click all over the screen but nothing hppens. Is this because the Backup battery is no good??
Pease help
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Old 06-11-07, 05:03 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Quote:
The X3 comes with a user replaceable 950 mAh Lithium Ion battery.
@ Dell Axim X3 Pocket PC, PDA Reviews by Mobile Tech Review

how about his?
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Old 06-13-07, 11:11 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Don't know if this will help anyone or not. I purchased a used Axim x3 on eBay and it worked fine until 2 weeks ago when I figure my main battery was going bad - wouldn't hold a charge. So, I ordered a new one off of eBay to replace it but had to keep the Axim plugged in all the time. Anyway, backup battery started showing abnormal and I tried taking the main battery out (which was like a reset) and charging it without it for about 30 minutes. When I put the battery back in, it went back to normal. Unfortunately, the electric went out, so back to abnormal. New battery arrived a couple days later (I had just given up). Charged up the new battery and put it in and the backup battery was fine again - so I didn't have to replace it. I had read that your main battery only lasts a couple years before it needs to be replaced. Could this be part of the abnormal battery backup problem? (knock on wood, hopefully, backup battery will remain normal!)
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Old 06-14-07, 10:53 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Hey folks,
Purchased the BUB from pdasmart. No instructions were included, so I looked at the picture in this post to see what had to be removed. Be careful.....The parts are very delicate. I broke a piece and had to crazy glue it back together.
However, So far so good. No more abnormal BUB messages.
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Old 07-21-07, 11:13 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Battery may not be dead
Your backup battery might not be dead, it might just have entered a 0 V state which is preventing it from being charged (the charger will not try to charge it).

If you have a voltmeter and a bit of skill you may not need to buy a new battery. I just bought an axim x3i from Ebay. On arrival it had the "battery abnormal", battery has failed screen, exactly as shown in pictures in this forum. I tried the suggestions in other threads about charging without the main battery, putting it on the cradle while on, do it for several hours, etc, etc., no go in my case. I did some reading at the sites of the manufacturers of these NimH button batteries and learned that if they get completely drained during shipping they may "die", but can be revived. The battery enters a 0 volt state, and most chargers will not attempt to charge a 0V battery, as it thinks the battery is dead. The axim behaves the same, if the voltage dropped to 0v it will not charge the backup battery anymore and will display the "abnormal" message. Most of the time the battery is not truly dead, and can be brought back to life. How? You need to jump start it with 1.5 to 2x its rated voltage. I just did that a few hours ago, and my backup battery is now back to a "normal" state and holding charge. The way I did it:

Took 2 AAA batteries, used electrical tape to connect them together in series, along with wire leads at each terminal. Checked with voltmeter for voltage at the wires from the rigged batteries, reads 2.54 volts. Good. You might want to attach the other end of the wires to something pointy, like a nail or needle, as it will make it much easier to do the next step. To check the voltage of the backup battery (bub) there's no need to remove it from the wrap. The tiny white connector has a couple of small, recessed silver tabs on the top of it, where the wires come in. It is much easier (though still a bit hard) to put your probe there then to try to stick it in the little holes in the tip of the connector. These silver tabs are also the easiest place to connect the wires to jump start the back up battery. When measuring the voltage in my bub it read 0 volts, as expected. Time to jump start it. Touch the positive wire from the rigged AAA batteries to the positive terminal of the bub. In my case, that was the red wire. At the same time touch the negative wire to the negative terminal of the bub, in my case it was the grey wire. Do it for only 5 seconds first, and check the temperature of the bub with your finger. If it got really hot, you might have the polarity wrong. Check the voltage of the bub again. Mine read 0.01V, hey, better than zero. Jump start the battery again, but now hold the connection for about 10 seconds. Careful not to short the wires, they are very close together, and if you do the rigged AAA cells will get very hot and.... ehr.. let's not think about it. Provided your bub is not very warm, do a third cycle, this time for 20 seconds. My bub got warm after this, but not hot. Checked the voltage one last time and.... it now reads 1.3 V. Yay! One word of caution: leave reconnecting the backup battery for last, after all the other screws and connectors are already in place and you are ready to screw in the back cover. Why? You don't have your main battery connected, and your revived backup battery has very little charge in it. If it gets drained to 0V again while you're fidgeting with the back cover.... you're back to where you started. Call me paranoid, but I connected the charger to the axim first, so I'd have main power, then I plugged the white backup battery connector in its socket. Next I quickly put the back cover in place, popped in the main battery, and screwed down the back cover. Anyway, this worked for me, but your mileage may vary.

Ah, one last thing about disassembly: for those following the picture in another post, after you take the 4 screws off the cover you must remove 3 more screws: 2 at the bottom, beside the power connector, and one at the top, which actually holds down the wifi antenna on the x3i. If that's your case, you'll have to disconnect the little connector from the antenna as well and remove it, it just unplugs like a miniature tv cable, cute. For everyone there are now 3 ribbon cables preventing you from lifting the motherboard enough to access the backup battery. You only have to disconnect 2. You can leave the largest cable on the right where it is, and just "hinge" the board up. But you'll have to disconnect the smaller cable next to it. You'll notice that there are clear plastic tabs on the side of the connector. Those slide back if pushed with the tip of a small screwdriver, releasing the "grip" on the ribbon so you can pull it out. The other ribbon cable at the bottom, close to the power jack, is trickier. The brown plastic thing sitting just under the ribbon is a one piece "shim" that is applying pressure on the ribbon cable for good contact. It has two little prongs that are "hinged" on the sides of the light colored motherboard connector. If you lift it up slightly, as if opening the lid of a chest, it should release the pressure on the ribbon cable and you can pull it and the cable out. Note that this cable is short and "springy", so its tendency is to want to stay in the connector. To put this back, revert the procedure: hinge the "shim" back in the connector, then slide the ribbon cable over it into the connector, push the shim down.
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Old 07-26-07, 04:55 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Thank you very much (alicialovejoy)! I also just received my little x3i from _bay with a dead looking backup battery that would not reactivate. Today I unplugged the little plug, scotch taped 2 AAA batteries together with paper clips taped to the ends and stuck 2 pins in the back of the plug where the wires go in. Then It was easy to jump start the battery with the paperclips by touching the pins. Did it a few times for approx 10 seconds or until I started to feel a small warmth then as soon as I plugged it in snapped the cover back on and set it in the charger. Later all was looking good (Insert happy face here) I put the 4 screws and the little rubber feet back in. Excellent Post, Thanks again
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