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Old 04-18-03, 07:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Any good pocket word replacements? (word problem)

I have a a few large text files for work, 2megs and larger and when i try to key word search them pocket word freezes.

any ideas?
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Have you tried TextMaker

http://www.softmaker.de/tmp_en.htm

Of course, you have to pay for it, but it also comes with a PC version as well.
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hmmmm........

i think for a company that charges nearly 15-20.00 more for its product to its OWN people is worthy of an ass kicking...........
Ill pass........


Anyone else???
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hmmmm........

i think for a company that charges nearly 15-20.00 more for its product to its OWN people is worthy of an ass kicking...........
Ill pass........


Anyone else???
If you are talking about the $10 (not $15 or $20) difference between Euro and US Dollar prices for TextMaker, this is because we have to pay 16% value-added tax for European customers.

If you are talking about something else, please enlighten me.

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what i was implying was the normal money exchange rates.

for us customers your charging 50.00usd
for euro customers it is 66.00usd

that is what i mean
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what i was implying was the normal money exchange rates.

for us customers your charging 50.00usd
for euro customers it is 66.00usd

that is what i mean
Yeah... when I saw that I figured it was just that Sales Tax in Europe was Through the Roof... That is what SoftMaker (Martin) was referring to, that is after tax that it's more expensive.

In the US it isn't common to include tax in the labelled price of things, because this depends on where the buyer and sellers are since this is variable from state to state, but where there are National Sales taxes, tax is almost always included in the labelled price.
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what i was implying was the normal money exchange rates.

for us customers your charging 50.00usd
for euro customers it is 66.00usd

that is what i mean
No, the difference is always $10/EUR 10:

- TextMaker for Pocket PCs: US$49.95 - EUR 59.95
- TextMaker for PPC + Windows: US$69.95 - EUR 79.95

This just about covers VAT that we have to deduct to the German IRS.

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Old 04-23-03, 02:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Good explanation!

Nice explanation, Martin!

It is what it is.;)

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The product is great but it's a frickin' rip off. A reasonable price is 20 maybe 30 dollars USD MAXIMUM. I know how much PDA's have progressed but they're still PDA's for god's sake, and as such they are still limited in their potential and resellers should consider this before trying to screw the customers like they do with the prices for computer software. In conclusion I love the product, I despise the business tactics of the corporation behind it.
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The product is great but it's a frickin' rip off. A reasonable price is 20 maybe 30 dollars USD MAXIMUM. I know how much PDA's have progressed but they're still PDA's for god's sake, and as such they are still limited in their potential and resellers should consider this before trying to screw the customers like they do with the prices for computer software. In conclusion I love the product, I despise the business tactics of the corporation behind it.
Aha. Well, everybody's entitled to his or her opinion.

Just a few random thoughts:

1. How much did you pay for your Pocket PC? About five to ten times the amount of the price of TextMaker. So, are PPCs a rip-off as well?

2. For $69.95, you get a full word processor for Pocket PCs AND for Windows. Last time I checked, Microsoft Word was several times the price.

3. I just bought a copy of Excel XP. Mind you, it was just the UPGRADE, not a full version, and still the price was US$120. This is just for the Windows version, there is no Excel for Pocket PCs.

That's the thing I don't understand: Just because your Pocket PC has a small form factor, why do you think that (a) software should be priced at only a fraction of the price for Windows software, and (b) that software development for Pocket PCs is any cheaper or less work-intensive than for Windows software? In fact, developing for Pocket PCs is MUCH HARDER than writing for Windows. Haven't you ever wondered why no big corporation does Pocket PC software?

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Hi,

I use textmaker and like it, i am still wondering if it was worth the money but i think i might decide it is. the windows version is also pretty nice and really, That guy from softmaker is right... word is cost mutch more.

Well, when i started using ppc i thought software would be a little bit cheaper (i did use the form factor to come to that conclusion) but came to think about is, it is pretty hard work to get a program up and running for a ppc, so i do undertand the prices they ask.

But its still a lot of money, if you really dislike word its the way to go. If you don't consider word the ideal program but do whant to eat tonight...:p

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How good is the support for Equation Editor 3.0? It's a utility built into Word XP that is used to create equations with proper looking fractions and such. I'm assuming that you can view them, but what about editing?
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How good is the support for Equation Editor 3.0? It's a utility built into Word XP that is used to create equations with proper looking fractions and such. I'm assuming that you can view them, but what about editing?
Equations are just OLE objects, and OLE objects are not supported by the Windows CE operating system. So, TextMaker loads the equations, displays them as gray rectangles, and restores them when saving again in Word format. So, while you cannot view or edit them on the Pocket PC, they are retained.

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Although I do find some of the high pricing irritating, I do understand WHY the prices are that way. I bought my copy back when they had a deal to get the windows and Pocket version for $50. That's $50 for two very fine products that each required a considerable amount of development time (I've just started doing some programming myself, but I have an undestanding of the amount of effort it takes to build a good program). The amount of time it takes to port a prorgam from windows to CE is also quite immense, and requires rebuilding a large portion of the code, and then recompiling, plus that means a completely separate bug testing phase, and optimization process. All that takes lots and lots of time. True, it is a PDA that you probably spent $250 - $350 on (or even more)... but that's enough money to buy a previous-generation PC too, and software doesn't cost any less on that than it does on a $2,000 PC.

Also, It is understandable that prices are higher on Pocket PC because there is a much much smaller market. Development costs are high, and are a flat cost, when the reasonable maximum number of units you can sell is many many times smaller on the Pocket PC platform than other platforms, your potential for profit is limited, but your flat costs don't get any smaller.

Considering I got a high quality word processor for both Windows and for Pocket PC, which I use all the time, and probably will contiue to use for several years, $50 is well worth it. That's the same as what you'd spend on a typical new-release game.
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I've got to give kudos to the makers for making such a HUGE concession to schools, teachers and students - If you are a student or teacher, checkout their discounted rates.

At $14.00 for students, all complaining stops here - I'm ordering my copy today.:)
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