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07-25-03, 10:20 AM
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I got the same results as Astounded EEG
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07-25-03, 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Damoosemander
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I just bought my 1st PDA. and it took for ever for Dell to deliver. Many excuses then finally it came /w 2003. apparently that was the hold up. Over a month in waiting!
My Dell Axim X5 400Mhz seems to be working pretty good, when I can get it turned on! Every 2-3 days I have to do a hard reset (Hold the Reset button on the side and the I/O button down for approx. 3 seconds. Then I have to do a full reset.
Once I do that it works. I hope that helps, any thoughts on my problem? with no reason at all I can't turn it on until I do a Full reset???
Thanks in advance for any help
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Mine did that too once ... after I put through the security X-Ray machine at work ... maybe it was coincidence... but I don't put mine through the security X-ray machine anymore :)
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07-25-03, 10:25 AM
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Do you mean form time to time after you shut your pda off you can't turn it back on again, without doing a reset. and even after it turned on with a reset once you turn it off again, you still can't turn it without a reset?
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07-25-03, 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by ZER0
Mine did that too once ... after I put through the security X-Ray machine at work ... maybe it was coincidence... but I don't put mine through the security X-ray machine anymore :)
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07-25-03, 10:35 AM
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after I put through the security X-Ray machine at work .
I never put mine through anything. it just won't turn on with the on off button, I have to hit the side reset button, but that will just turn it on, once I turn it off, I have to do the same. The only thing that helps is for me to do a Full hard reset.
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07-25-03, 11:06 AM
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I have tried everything you could possibly think of- hard reset, soft reset, removing 1 battery, then the other, then both, and AC power...still nothing. The bad thing is Dell/AirBorne has no idea that I returned my replacement, so they are charging me 326 dollars. I was going to send them mine back if it doesnt get worked out, but now it's dead...
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07-25-03, 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Theebag
Hello , this is a verry interesting topic .
I've been testing with my axim and here are the results .
I'm playing a verry heavy mpg movie with PocketTV.
L=1 M=2 N= 4 : Speed 398 , Pxbus 99 : 12.22 Fps
L=1 M=2 N= 6 : Speed 597 , Pxbus 99 : 14.33 Fps
L=1 M=3 N=2 : Speed 398 , Pxbus 199 : 14.34 Fps
L=1 M=3 N=3 : Speed 597 , Pxbus 199 : 15.84 Fps
L M N settings above are reported with CPUID
But in Advanced XScaleCtrl their diffrent :
L=27 M=2 N=2 : Speed 398 , Pxbus 99 : 12.22 Fps
L=27 M=2 N=3 : Speed 597 , Pxbus 99 : 14.33 Fps
L=27 M=4 N=1 : Speed 398 , Pxbus 199 : 14.34 Fps
L=27 M=4 N=1.5 : Speed 597 , Pxbus 199 : 15.84 Fps
So what can i conclude : To bus speed is the real bottleneck for the Xscaler . An 400/200 Mhz is as fast as an 600/100 . Pretty strong stuff
Can somebody confirm my experiences ?
Ow yea forgot to mention : Dell Axim X5 Advance PPC 2002
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Yes, there were post on Brighthand (I believe) a few months ago. Although the setting produced 597 MHZ, the performance in benchmark aren't as good. I don't remember the reason. Most pretty much agreed that the 472 gave better performance than the 597. Sorry I don't have more info that that.
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07-25-03, 11:32 AM
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I tried the 472 Mhz with Turbo tray. It did not increase the Bus Speed to 199Mhz as discussed earlier (I want to say it was 118Mhz). I'm wondering if the Benchmark for 597Mhz article that you read was actually operating with a PXBus speed of 99Mhz
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07-25-03, 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by daximx5
I have tried everything you could possibly think of- hard reset, soft reset, removing 1 battery, then the other, then both, and AC power...still nothing. The bad thing is Dell/AirBorne has no idea that I returned my replacement, so they are charging me 326 dollars. I was going to send them mine back if it doesnt get worked out, but now it's dead...
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A while back I OCed my old Axim to something like what you were talking about and it got warm and shut off. I took the main battery and the backup battery out and let it sit for a while. This allowed two things; the Axim to cool off ('cause it had apparently gotten REAL hot) and removing both batteries allowed all RAM to clear (hard reset by battery removal). After that time, my Axim came up fine. Make sure you have both batteries removed so there is no current to allow it to keep memory. Also, when it happened to me, the Axim was only on for less than a minute because I did not want heat damage. I had immediately removed the batteries to shut it down.
As far as the return. Use your tracking number and print the shipping carrier's tracking page so you can prove Dell got it. It might take a week or two, but if you keep on them, the return will be credited. I have had all things credited by Dell, but I had to keep my records and follow through.
I hope things work out for you.
-JmE-
To All,
Please be careful with these OC programs. They are capable of running your handheld outside what the hardware is able to handle. Perhaps check the author's website (for the OC software you are using) for possible working settings. http://www.pockethackmaster.com should be seeing some updated Axim profiles in a few days along with the new version. Searching for Overclock in web forums will produce a wealth of info too.
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07-25-03, 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by JmE
Yes, there were post on Brighthand (I believe) a few months ago. Although the setting produced 597 MHZ, the performance in benchmark aren't as good. I don't remember the reason. Most pretty much agreed that the 472 gave better performance than the 597. Sorry I don't have more info that that.
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Just read in a forum, alot of the performance has to do with the RAM frequency as well. At 500 or 600 the RAM frequency stays at 99Mhz, at 472 the RAM frequency is 118, maybe this has to do with increased performance. I think that with one of the OC programs in a lower mode I have seen the RAM frequency at 49Mhz. Maybe this is also a contributing factor to the lack of performance of the new machines...
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07-25-03, 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Magadin
I tried the 472 Mhz with Turbo tray. It did not increase the Bus Speed to 199Mhz as discussed earlier (I want to say it was 118Mhz). I'm wondering if the Benchmark for 597Mhz article that you read was actually operating with a PXBus speed of 99Mhz
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It began a big debate with posts of benchmarks and settings... the thread eventually settled on 597 being slower. I think Anton even posted a bit or two on it...
I could not find the thread over at brighthand, but if you go to http://discussion.brighthand.com/sea...der=descending there are some threads with benchmarks. I am not sure that link will work (don't know how their search page links in) but I searched Overclock and I looked in the Dell Axim X5 forum. More OC info can be found by including all Pocket PC forums I would imagine.
-JmE-
Edit: sorry Magadin, I was off posting this apparently when you already posted. :D
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07-25-03, 11:53 AM
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Wow, I can't believe I forgot to post this...
Pocket Hack Master also allows you to change the cache settings. The PXA250 had a cache bug so it was set so it would not corrupt things. The bug was fixed in the PXA255. Pocket Hack Master allows you to set the cache to wtie back, write through, write through with read allocate, etc...
There are discussion about the settings over at Anton's forums http://antontomov.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi
There is not a lot of activity over there but if you poke around, you can reap some info on the cache settings. I usually set at write through or write through with read allocate.
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07-25-03, 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by JmE
Yes, there were post on Brighthand (I believe) a few months ago. Although the setting produced 597 MHZ, the performance in benchmark aren't as good. I don't remember the reason. Most pretty much agreed that the 472 gave better performance than the 597. Sorry I don't have more info that that.
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IT is obvious Dell Axim x5 /w 2003 has serious problems. I just talked to them and although they will not confirm or deny, they were nice enough to direct me to a web site - take a look for somewhat of an explanation
http://news.com.com/2100-1041-1026579.html
Regards
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07-25-03, 12:14 PM
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My axim crashes immediatly when I try the fast memory setting (118 mhz ) , could somebody help my ?
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07-25-03, 12:18 PM
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There has been several discussions regarding different settings using the stock default settings vs OC settings and determining what the results are using either CPUID or what Hack Master is reporting. I have seen posts from individuals using the PXA250 chip and others using the PXA255. There are individuals using PPC2002 on the advanced and basic. There are individuals using WM2003 on the advanced. There are alot of different scenarios offered in this thread.
Even though I am running PPC2002 on the Axim advanced using the PXA255 chip, I am having problems using XCPUScalar pushing my cpu to 472MHz where others are having no problem at all. I know that this thread discusses cpu settings on the axim and the overall internal bus speed but I really do believe that those that atleast have the PXA255's, there are two separate batches. I believe that there is one batch of Axims that Dell has delivered where the memory is running at 10ns. There seems to be another batch of Axims with PXA255 chips where the memory speed is around 8ns. This could make some difference in performance as well. It is possible that the Axims that performs running at 472MHz is running at a faster memory speed than others. I know that this is a new wrinkle to this thread but it is important that everyone realizes that there could be more differences to the Axims that just the CPU.
Just a thought.
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