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Old 07-25-03, 09:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Overclocking and Hardware Failure

Has anyone ever damaged their Axim with Overclocking??

I've been doing a little research and haven't found any reports of overclocking damaging the processor beyond use. Understandably, any damage to your Axim from continuously overclocking the processor voids your warranty, but has it ever come to that in anyone's experience?

Also, I'm wondering what the effects of the lifespan of the processor is...

Supposedly, with a regular PC processor, the percent increase is supposed to decrease the life of your processor by that amout, i.e a 200 Mhz overclocked to 300 Mhz would half the lifespan. I'm curious as to how much of a hit the xScale's would take on lifespan. Gauging the typical life of a PDA, I'm sure the processor would last longer than most of the other components, so this may be a moot question.

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Old 07-25-03, 10:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I know nothing on this. I'll check around and see what I can find. Out of curiosity, how would you go about overclocking your PC at home?
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Old 07-25-03, 10:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I am an overclocking fiend ... water cooled dual Athlon machines ... conjures some strange peripherals for PPCs

Heat is semiconductor's enemy. So life expectancy will be reduced. As I am a new comer to PPCs & their forums, I do not know if anyone has reported a Axim failure that might be contributed to overcloking. I used "might" as you never may be certain that was the cause in the event of a failure.

So if you haven't found any reports ... that is good ... expecialy for someone like myself.

In thinking a little bit about the overcloking programs that I have reviewed very briefly, the overclock increments seem to be 50 MHz. My guess is that the increment that will allow the machine to operate is far enough below the actual "edge", that the processor will not get that hot. With PCs, the overclock freq. can be pushed to within 1 MHz of operate/no operate. God forbid if you don't have the heat sink on correctly ... especially Athlons.
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Old 07-25-03, 10:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That was the other thing that made me think about this...

There really isn't any noticeable heat given off by the Axim, nor any heat increased when overclocked. I thought that was one of the big problems with PC overclocking, heating up the processor to the point of shutdown.
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Old 07-25-03, 10:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I tried OCing my Axim to 590 (PXA255) and it locked up solid. I thought I had really screwed it but a hard reset cleared it on about the 5th go. I haven't tried again since )

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Old 07-25-03, 10:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've locked mine up a bunch of times with overclocking but I've also read that it doesn't damage the processor to do so. I really don't know for sure. I wonder if there's a modification that can be made to the mb by opening the Axim...
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If you own a Basic (300Mhz) model, I think overclocking is a must!
At least clock it to 400.

Technically, it is not even overclocking for the Basic, I would call in "right-clocking" as it comes "underclocked" from Dell, to help justify the price of the "Advanced" model.
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That's what wonders me, maybe they are all underclocked, most processors are to prevent problems with Spikes and such.
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There is one advantage of the 300Mhz clocked basic... the battery last longer.

Personally.... I use XCPUScalar as follows...

CPU Load Speed
0-15% 100Mhz (it's pretty rare that it drops down this low)
16-50% 200Mhz
51-75% 400Mhz
76-100% 472Mhz.
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Old 07-25-03, 12:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Pocket Hack Master allows you to set the same options. I tried XPUscalar and I wasn't satisfied with the canned settings, if I remember correctly, there was no option to manually set the values.
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I use pocket hack master. Works great and I have only locked my ax up once. a soft reset fixed it. I did notice it gets kind of warm after a couple of hours use while overclocked.
bet that shortens the life
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What are you overclocking it to?
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where are the best places to get this software?

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where are the best places to get this software?

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If you own a Basic (300Mhz) model, I think overclocking is a must!
At least clock it to 400.

Technically, it is not even overclocking for the Basic, I would call in "right-clocking" as it comes "underclocked" from Dell, to help justify the price of the "Advanced" model.
But you cant overclock the extra memory to justify the price
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