edbro

TurboTray

http://elevatedstudios.com/pocket/

JmE

A few comments to add to the list...

I overclock because I enjoy it. I have been overclocking since my first PC. Actually, I may have started earlier than my journey into the PC world... alas it has been so long ago I don't remember.

PPC 2002 doesn't seem to have a place to set the PXA255 to run 199 MHZ PXBus. It isn't really an Axim thing. Originally, the PXA250 was the processor, it ran a maximum PXBus of 99 MHZ so that is what PPC2002 was working with. Additionally, I now see that a 199 MHZ PXBus doesn't seem to be that big of a deal to me because it seems to eliminate usage of the built in PXA255 autoscaling. This seems to be by design per Intel (Table 3-1, Intel Developer's Manual, pg 67). However, such autoscaling can be done by 3rd party software.

starforce_chips, not to single you out, but I think there is insufficient evidence and it is premature in the WM2003 game to really make the claim of "cheap parts, etc." warranted. True, in time that may be proven as the case, but for now it is somewhat premature to make such assertions. I understand it is your opinion and I do respect that. Indeed, I sometimes suspect the very same things you posted, however, I myself would not post them as fact... In any event, in my opinion the Axims have been great PPCs for running PPC2002 at a cheap price. I feel I have more than gotten my money's worth all these months.

If nothing else, owning an Axim has allowed me the opportunity to interact with a top notch group of people here on Aximsite. (That includes every user here, down to the last). :D

Enjoy!
-JmE-

JmE

Addendum:

I see in Table 3-1 for the PXA250 that there are other PXBus possibilities of 118, 132, 147, and 165 MHZ but some bump the MEM,LCD frequencies up and the SDRAM frequencies down so I am not sure which if any are usable or desirable.

-JmE-

OC Noob

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Originally posted by starforce_chips I don't think that Dell lowered the multiplier on the processor speed "because of price." It doesn't make sense. Why offer a very capable processor , no matter what you step it down to, along with an Axim for cheap? I think the other stuff on the circuit board is cheap. The chipset, firmware, or whatever else was good enough for 2002 but not 2003.

It makes a lot of sense. For example, if Intel makes a batch of chips and 40% are tested to run at 3 ghz and the rest fail, but pass the testing for 2.4ghz they may in fact sell 3 ghz processors as 2.4 ghz processors. If all the 2.4 ghz chips sell and there are still 3 ghz rated chips left (as is often the case due to demand at a certain price) intel will badge some faster 3 gz chips as 2.4 ghz because a chip that is sold always brings in more money then one that is not.

Also, binning (the testing process to determine what chips will do what) costs money. If they make a chip that will do 400 mhz with a very high yield its cheaper to just criple a fast chip rather then testing for slower chips.

They may bin chips out to get the faster 400 mhz chips, but it is not likely as its more expensive and these chips hit 400 mhz and higher easily.

Keep in mind that these chips identical and it costs intel the same amount of money to make a 300 mhz chip as it does a 400 mhz chip and the only distinction they would make is via the binning process as it would be far to costly to make a slower chip when they can just criple a chip they are already making.

It happens all the time with computer components. Companies want to meet the low end demand so they criple or remove features (which ever is cheaper) to sell to those people.

Didn't you take any marketing when you got that EE degree?

kodiak917

I just fried my Axim 5 with this program. It gave me a error of bad rom and that it will be reset. I rebooted and now my axim just sits there with the dell logo. Any thoughts as to what I can do? I already tried a hard reset and pulling out all the batteries.

Thanks

Kodiak

JmE

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Originally posted by kodiak917 I just fried my Axim 5 with this program. It gave me a error of bad rom and that it will be reset. I rebooted and now my axim just sits there with the dell logo. Any thoughts as to what I can do? I already tried a hard reset and pulling out all the batteries. Thanks Kodiak

Which software did you use to OC and what OS are you running? (PPC2002 or WM2003).

-JmE-

starforce_chips

Well OC,

You can't profit much from the low end market if the stuff you're selling doesn't work well. (Just look at the other posts with people switching to the HP 2210 ;) ). We both agree that the chips are capable. If that's the case, then why does the Axim crash like it was designed that way while other PPCs w/ the same Intel PX250 offer 10% more performance w/ the same OS?

I still stand by my assertion that the other components are cheap. The price is nice but I'll pay a little more for something that does more than just look good. I'll wait until after the update is announced.


And no, I'm not taking EE...you seen the job market there lately?! (You're Dell's probably made in Malaysia...just a thought.)

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Starforce

kodiak917

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Originally posted by JmE Which software did you use to OC and what OS are you running? (PPC2002 or WM2003). -JmE-

I was using TurboTray. I was running Microsoft Pocket PC and im pretty sure its 2003 version. The about Info says Version 4.20.1081 (build 13100). The Processor is a Intel PXA255. I called dell and told them I was having problems did a little troubleshooting and 20 minutes later they are now shipping me a new one to replace. It will be about a week because the tech told me they are updateing the firmware on the Axim 5 talked about something not working to its fullest capacity so they are delaying shipping till they get that worked out. I dont remember the exact specifics. I think in a few weeks we will see a bios update available for the axim.

Kodiak