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Old 01-19-07, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Worried Is the WM5 A02 ROM update worth the trouble?

I tried the WM5 A01 ROM update way back when, and I hated it mainly due to the severely crippled BT stack. So I restore my unit to 2003SE. Now I see there is a new A02 ROM available. (I have not been here for some time so I'm behind in current events.) Is the A02 ROM update worth the touble? Did they fix the BT stack? Thanks to everyone!
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Old 01-20-07, 12:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Opinions seem split. I have upgraded mine to A02 and have not had a single problem with it after I applied the fake server hack to Activesync on the PPC. I also made sure that every piece of software I installed was WM5 compatible and install as much as possible on a storage card. I did not install any battery meters, using only the OS supplied one, and used Magic Button to close applications and make sure that I manually close Activesync with it after each sync. I really like the look and feel of the new OS.
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Do it! And yes, the new MS stack works ok. The Broadcomm stack slows down the system. Make sure to use AS4.5 Beta also.
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I have WM5 A02 on my x50v with no issues at all, as stated I use try to use software that works with WM5.
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Old 02-05-07, 04:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Are you people mad? If you have WM2003, STAY WITH IT!

I've got WM5, and although I finally got it stable, I miss my X50v & WM2003.
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Old 02-05-07, 09:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I tried going to A02 twice and rolled back each time. I applied the FST and that helped a bit but I could never get over the regular screen refresh slowdowns. The X50's ram just wasn't meant to run WM5 well IMO.

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Old 02-05-07, 12:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Did the upgrade a couple of weeks ago and my axim has never run better. I'm glad I did it.
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Old 02-05-07, 02:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by STi Sev
Are you people mad? If you have WM2003, STAY WITH IT!

I've got WM5, and although I finally got it stable, I miss my X50v & WM2003.
You know that Dell has a "rollback" rom file on their website. I don't know why you would want to. If done correctly, the upgrade rocks! WM2003 was the crappiest OS I have ever used. I would rather Palm os over that junk. And trust me, I've used them all. I think Dell did a great job with the memory management part of A02 and the bluetooth stack is much improved. I have TONS of software loaded on my unit and it is running faster than ever. I guess it is going to take time for someone who is used to WM2003 to adjust to the new idiosyncrasies of WM5. One thing I know we can all agree on, is that there is no such thing as a perfect windows OS.
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what you don`t miss having twice the memory available in W2k3 than WM5? I sure did and rolled back because everything ran much slower in WM5 no matter what I did to increase memory.
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what you don`t miss having twice the memory available in W2k3 than WM5? I sure did and rolled back because everything ran much slower in WM5 no matter what I did to increase memory.
Agreed. I do not understand how people can state an upgraded x50 to WM 5 A02 runs as fast or faster than the native WM 2003SE. It simply doesn't.
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Originally Posted by dequardo
Agreed. I do not understand how people can state an upgraded x50 to WM 5 A02 runs as fast or faster than the native WM 2003SE. It simply doesn't.
Maybe they think reading and writing to ROM is faster than reading and writing to RAM. Either that or it's just wishful thinking. Not even the X51 is as fast as the X50 with 2003se.
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Originally Posted by dequardo
Agreed. I do not understand how people can state an upgraded x50 to WM 5 A02 runs as fast or faster than the native WM 2003SE. It simply doesn't.
How can you tell me how fast my Axim is or was? I was about to sell what I thought was a piece of crap before the A02 rom came out. I didn't upgrade to WM5 until then.

Simple equation for me:
WM2003SE = crash, crash, lock-up, lock-up, hard reset, restore, slooooooow, and ran out of main memory constantly.
WM5 = Enjoy using it for once. 2 months with no hard reset-restores. Play games, watch movies, use bluetooth GPS, etc. with no lock-ups.

Whatever makes you happy, do it!
The only way to know if it will work for you is to try it.
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Sorry for your troubles FreakyFrank but I'm sure you understand that you are just one of the rare ones to have that sort of problems with 2003se. I can assure you that the majority of X50 users using 2003se (such as myself) are happy with the performance of their units otherwise they would have switched already in a heartbeat. As for trying WM5, I own an X51V so I know how that works. No thanks, but I'll keep my 2003se on my X50 and lets just say I get the best of both worlds. My X50 w/2003SE= stable, fast, fast, fast, reliable.
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Originally Posted by FreakyFranks
How can you tell me how fast my Axim is or was? I was about to sell what I thought was a piece of crap before the A02 rom came out. I didn't upgrade to WM5 until then.

Simple equation for me:
WM2003SE = crash, crash, lock-up, lock-up, hard reset, restore, slooooooow, and ran out of main memory constantly.
WM5 = Enjoy using it for once. 2 months with no hard reset-restores. Play games, watch movies, use bluetooth GPS, etc. with no lock-ups.

Whatever makes you happy, do it!
The only way to know if it will work for you is to try it.
While I didn't have the crash problems with 2003, I did soft reset frequently to keep things running smoothly. With WM5, I haven't had to reset in over a month, and the last one I did was because software required one to install properly. The system is stable, and I can't tell the difference in speed between 2003 and WM5 in overall daily usage. I personally like the new OS and now that it's stable with A02 I recommend it to everyone I know with an X50v (4 of us and we all upgraded successfully).
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Old 02-07-07, 06:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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And you honestly don't notice periodic screen refreshes and taps that don't register for 15-30 seconds at a time? Wow. Stunning how some people accept this.
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