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Old 05-26-09, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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X50v Power Connector Issues

I'm having an issue with my Axim. Basically, when it is connected on the cradle, it has to be positioned just right to get it to be recognized/charged/synced.

It is not the cradle as I've used a car charger and same thing...have to wiggle adapter to get it to charge.

Is there any way to fix the power outlet on the bottom of the Axim X50v?

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Old 05-26-09, 04:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It is the connector in the bottom of the PDA. It is breaking. It will only get worse. You could take it apart and fix it, or send it in to someone to fix it, or get another PDA. I had a X50V this happened to (still have it) and found a "new in box" X51V on eBay. The persisent storage of the X51V is worth it over the X50V in any case. Sorry!
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You will find a great video in this thread by Bernardm showing how to take your X50 apart.

You may be able to reseat the connector that way.
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Workaround:
Buy another standard/ extended battery to place in cradle. When you run out of battery, just switch it with a fresh battery. Then recharge the depleted one...
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Old 05-26-09, 10:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey guys.

Thank you all for the tips. It was due time I cracked the case. Did so and it is pretty simplistic inside. No huge revelations, but from what others have said, the port is failing. After searching, seems I can get a new port for around $43 (shipping included) at pdasmart.com. Not sure if it is worth it since I could probably get a used Axim for that much. Any other ideas on where to find a used or new port?

Good idea about the alternating batteries...unfortunately though I like to sync my pda while at work and use it as my calendar reminder.
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I had the same issue and ended up purchasing a HP Ipaq Enterprise 211. Glad I did and haven't looked back once. Fantastic!
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I've had the issue with mine for a few years now. I hasn't gotten any worse, but, I have to jiggle it in the cradle. I doubt it's your cradle as I have two and the AX is the same in both. I did find that if I put a couple of pieces of tape on each side of the cradle connector the AX would seat properly and didn't have to be jiggled as much.

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Makes me wonder why Dell didn't use a mini-USB or some other sort of connection.

The charger also could have been a standard round plug.
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All OEMs seem to have their own connectors. The iPod is a good example. And look at all the different connectors used by cell phones. Even within the same brand they change connectors from phone to phone. I've had three different Nokia phones over the past 10 years and each has had a different plug for charging.
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Originally Posted by emeraldgirl08 View Post
Makes me wonder why Dell didn't use a mini-USB or some other sort of connection.

The charger also could have been a standard round plug.
Or via the same USB cable, just plugged into a charger rather than a PC.

Actually, mini-USB is one of the criteria for any replacement device for my X51V.
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Originally Posted by AKAJohnDoe View Post
Or via the same USB cable, just plugged into a charger rather than a PC.

Actually, mini-USB is one of the criteria for any replacement device for my X51V.
The problem was that the Axim X5x series took so much power it could easily overcome the power available at the USB port on the PC. See the Lethal Cradle thread and the USB sync/charge warning thread for some details. Yes, both are long threads because it took a good bit of research to figure out what Dell had done to try to protect against burning out a USB port.
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The problem was that the Axim X5x series took so much power it could easily overcome the power available at the USB port on the PC. See the Lethal Cradle thread and the USB sync/charge warning thread for some details. Yes, both are long threads because it took a good bit of research to figure out what Dell had done to try to protect against burning out a USB port.
You misunderstand me. I have a Belkin charger that plugs into the X50V/X51V and comes out with a USB cable. This USB cable can be plugged into the PC for sync or into the Belkin plug adapter for charging.
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No, I don't misunderstand. The original Dell cable cannot be used to charge AND run at the same time because of the way the pins are wired. Similarly, if the external power is not connected to the cradle, it won't run and charge there, either. Third party vendors came out with cables that bypassed that protection scheme, which allowed the Ax to charge AND run at the same time, but in a lot of cases those cables burned out the motherboards of the PC/laptop because the USB port wasn't engineered to provide that much power and didn't have a fuse or cutout to prevent the overload. I don't know how your Belkin is wired, but if you can run AND charge, then it's bypassing the protection and you are dependent on the protection built into your PC/laptop for any current overload the Ax may cause. All of the cables can sync, that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not the cable will allow you to run AND charge at the same time.
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No, I don't misunderstand. The original Dell cable cannot be used to charge AND run at the same time because of the way the pins are wired. Similarly, if the external power is not connected to the cradle, it won't run and charge there, either. Third party vendors came out with cables that bypassed that protection scheme, which allowed the Ax to charge AND run at the same time, but in a lot of cases those cables burned out the motherboards of the PC/laptop because the USB port wasn't engineered to provide that much power and didn't have a fuse or cutout to prevent the overload. I don't know how your Belkin is wired, but if you can run AND charge, then it's bypassing the protection and you are dependent on the protection built into your PC/laptop for any current overload the Ax may cause. All of the cables can sync, that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not the cable will allow you to run AND charge at the same time.
Beggin' your pardon, but you are misunderstanding.

I am not talking about plugging the USB cable into the PC to charge, I am talking about plugging the Belkin USB cable into a Belkin charger unit that plugs into the wall.
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Beggin' your pardon, but you are misunderstanding.

I am not talking about plugging the USB cable into the PC to charge, I am talking about plugging the Belkin USB cable into a Belkin charger unit that plugs into the wall.
Yes, I understand that. What i was trying to say is that the very same cable that you have, with a standard USB plug on it, can, in fact, be plugged into any USB port. And that is where the danger lies. If you plug it only into an appropriate power adapter, no problem. But if you plug it into an unprotected PC/laptop port, you could fry the motherboard.

And the "appropriate power adapter" needs to provide up to 1600 mA, too, if you have a big battery, it's almost totally flat, screen bright, etc, etc. That's why Dell's adapter was 2.4W, to handle that big power potential.

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