axim_wannabe

hhhhmmmm... is this anyway related to BIS having a limited number of rewrites (as i would guess 100,000 times)?

im not saying that you guys may have already reached 100,000 times - what i am saying is that if there is a LIMIT to the number of rewrites, then there is an small possibility that even 10 rewrites could make BIS disappear... just like a HDD designed to have a MTBF for about years, but actually crashing in just a year...

any thoughts???

btw, i still dont know why BIS is made like this... some design flaw? etc. etc. since it completely goes against the idea of persistent storage (ie., what good it is if there is a limited to the read/writes?)

FreakTrap

Thanks for all of the feedback guys, dont think it will be much of a problem if i keep my bis below 75%...

stonehenge8

Mine died this morning.

An A01 model.

Dell shipping a new one tomorrow...but still the inconvenience...

Dell X50v User

Originally Posted by stonehenge8

Mine died this morning. An A01 model. Dell shipping a new one tomorrow...but still the inconvenience...

Mine died yesterday. This unit i have is and NEW replacement after screen align problems with the 1st one i had. Now I'm gonna end up with a refurb unit and god knows what that will come looking like.
I have had it with Dell handhelds. Never again will i buy another.

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adrianol

Originally Posted by Dell X50v User

Mine died yesterday. This unit i have is and NEW replacement after screen align problems with the 1st one i had. Now I'm gonna end up with a refurb unit and god knows what that will come looking like. I have had it with Dell handhelds. Never again will i buy another.

Not sure, but I am guessing that the new A04 ROM might have fixed this issue if you read between the lines of the release notes.

What ROM was yours? The one that died on me was A03.

Adrian

JFox

My BIS just died this afternoon. It was one of the early x50v's, got it in November, the first wave. I had a couple of programs in it, PocketArtist3, MultiIE, PocketRAR, MySportTraining, a few Word and Excel files, but it was nowhere near full. There was still over 60mb free. Dell is sending a "new" one. We'll see how new it is. More than likely it will be one of your old ones.

Too bad, I was really thinking Dell had turned a corner in this market. Now, I realise how nice and reliable my old Ipaq was. Maybe I need to Ebay the x50v and get an hx4700...

GuruX

Considering how much Windows Mobile 5 will be focusing on the BIS for storage, this is a problem I hope Dell can address pretty quickly.

No problems on my x50v, but then again, I just got the unit a few weeks ago.

hien34

seems like the same thing happened to me after letting the backup battery run dead - i noticed some really slow performance just trying to get it setup again and finally saw there was no BIS... i guess i will have to get it replaced also (x50v, A03)

axim_wannabe

quite similar to what has been posted here:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...d=1#post759981

could it be that having the Axim in an empty battery could actually cause the BIS to disappear?

UrbanJungles

Is anyone having luck getting compensation from Dell when they replace your new unit with a refurb? Can anyon confirm losing their BIS with the later ROM?

axim_wannabe

hhhmmmm...

if this happens more than most - i would consider it a BIG problem with Dell's quality control...

hehehehe... i guess that is one of the bad points of having a "low-priced" PDA

what are your thoughts?

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CasP

I've just brought my BIS in x50v back... If you've lost your BIS you can try to change ROM to Japanese and then back to English. I downgraded ROM to A02EN and changed to A01JA (little trick explained here: http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=83668 )with header from A03EN. After hard reset (it takes a long time because of ROM formatting. In my case it was 20 minutes!! Be patient)I changed ROM to A03EN with header from A02JA (the same trick) and voila! BIS is back. Be careful because you can brick your x50, and remember 2 facts: if something will go wrong you're out of warranty and your're doing it for your own responsibility. You can also try tool called psmformat. I haven't tried it but heard worked for a few people here in Poland. Good luck!

kazuni

this trick only works on x50v models - as the unit reformats (reprogrammed to fit in the rom) it actually uses a different size of rom on the device to store the operating system - thus using a bit more (or less) ROM which requires BIS to be reformatted. x30 was made by another company, and the strataflash rom they use was 2 different 32mb chips sodered on the board - thus, using the same size of language rom - and whcih means, after a reflash of the OS it will NOT format the BIS. this is a commonly known issue that has no fix unless u send the unit back to dell.

Vegeta

Ahh!!! My BIS just died as well. It's one of those things I thought couldn't happen to me, but it did.

But I have no idea why it died, it just disappeared. It was working fine, hadn't installed anything new recently and it had around 50% free space still. I was working on an excel file off of BIS but when I tried saving, it wouldn't save for some reason. So thinking it was nothing, I just saved it to main memory. A couple hours later, I try opening a movie file (.avi) and it doesn't work because it's not associated with Betaplayer anymore. So I try looking in the BIS, where Betaplayer was installed, and it's gone! No more BIS. I do the soft reset maybe 10 times or so, hoping it would somehow fix itself, no luck. Same with hard resets, nothing there either.

I was running off A02 so I decide to try upgrading to A03, nothing, A04, nothing, A05 nothing.

<sigh> guess I'll have to contact Dell now and see how things go from there, it just seems like such a hassle.