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Old 09-25-06, 01:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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In my case, the drag returns about a week later. No problem. I just sprayed some silicone lubricant on a paper towel before wiping it on the shield. It works again.
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Old 09-26-06, 09:03 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Might be safe?

Originally Posted by Haesslich
Teflon MIGHT be safe, but I don't think it'd 'stick' to the InvisibleShield all that well.. although the texture is about right for that - Teflon tends to come off smooth or plastic surfaces, IIRC - while the InvisibleShield isn't smooth, it's definitely plastic. Silicone, on the other hand, is completely inert when applied to plastics and rubbers, which makes it a safer alternative.

I'd also suggest the ApplePolish, since it's known to work.


Let’s please not suggest or talk about what might be safe. We don't want to suggest things that may damage equipment. Thanks.
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Old 09-26-06, 09:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
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yea I think its all a rumor. its as smooth as it was without the invisibleSHIELD. had mine for months and still no scratches after all that its been throuh.....
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Old 09-26-06, 11:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Let’s please not suggest or talk about what might be safe. We don't want to suggest things that may damage equipment. Thanks.
And if you'd read the post about 4 positions up from that one, you'd have seen I mentioned the "Applepolish Glaze - not the polish, but the smoothing/buffing liquid". Besides which, if you'd looked at the other responses, everyone's been putting the lubricant on BEFORE applying the shield to the equipment in question, which pretty much eliminates the possibility of damage.
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Old 09-27-06, 08:24 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Lets stick with the facts and only the facts

Originally Posted by Haesslich
And if you'd read the post about 4 positions up from that one, you'd have seen I mentioned the "Applepolish Glaze - not the polish, but the smoothing/buffing liquid". Besides which, if you'd looked at the other responses, everyone's been putting the lubricant on BEFORE applying the shield to the equipment in question, which pretty much eliminates the possibility of damage.
Haesslich, If you understood and took the comment the way it was intended you may understand I only have the forum member’s best interest in mind. I simply said you suggested something that "might" work. Now we don't want people possibly wasting there time or damaging there equipment. I hear the Brazilian Beaconolaso Leaf (Be-a-con-o-laso) will clean, shine and prevent finger prints for a month but I don’t mention it may work because I never tried it.
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Old 09-27-06, 10:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Haesslich, If you understood and took the comment the way it was intended you may understand I only have the forum member’s best interest in mind. I simply said you suggested something that "might" work. Now we don't want people possibly wasting there time or damaging there equipment. I hear the Brazilian Beaconolaso Leaf (Be-a-con-o-laso) will clean, shine and prevent finger prints for a month but I don’t mention it may work because I never tried it.
Somehow, after your last thread about 'better units than the Axim', I kinda doubt you have his Axim's best interests in mind, but whatever.

I've used silicone spray with no issue, as I've reported above. As far as the Apple Polish fix goes, I'm not the one who discovered it: If you read this thread on the Mobility Today site from a few months back, it's this user who used it first... and besides which, you use it on the shield BEFORE applying it to the Axim, then you don't have problems with the stuff leaking into the unit and 'damaging' it. It has been tested, and worked at that time, so I don't see why it won't work again.

Again, if you've information on better PocketPCs than the Axim for about the same price with similar features, I'd suggest posting it on the "Other PocketPC Devices" forums - we'd probably all love to see what they are, if only because ofsomeone might want to get one of those instead. There have been enough threads about people looking for alternatives, IIRC.
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Old 09-28-06, 12:41 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I don't understand the fuss over something that is clearly altruistic by intention. Look, I had problems using calligrapher with invisibleshield. So I read from Haesslich about the Applepolish Glaze. He is a stranger to me, and of course I have to exercise my own judgement to decide whether I took his advice or not. I didn't have Applepolish Glaze and tried the silicone spray myself and believe it solved the problem; I waited for two days to confirm it didn't have any negative effect before I added my opinion.

There are countless ideas invented by others here that really work. Some of them were not 100% proven at the time they were suggested (like using nail polish to fix the door latch problem for extended batteries, home-made batteries, or software written by individuals). Of course, there were ideas turned out to be failures, causing system crashes, data loss, and even irreversible malfunction. As long as no one is ill-intended when offering advice and solutions (like distributing software that contains virus or spyware), I think it is totally fair to let other readers to take responsibility in deciding whether adopting advice or not.

I personally think that Haesslich has already gone an extra mile explaining to others who disagree with him.
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Old 09-28-06, 06:04 AM   #23 (permalink)
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As far as the Apple Polish fix goes

Haesslich Wrote: "As far as the Apple Polish fix goes, I'm not the one who discovered it"

I think your missing the point. We were not talking about Apple Polish. We were talking about a product that you had no experience with that you were recommending to the forum without research at that time.
Why are you bringing back posts regarding a better pocket PC? I had requested that those posts be removed due to the anxiety they had caused to a selected few. The people that wanted the information asked me directly and were given the information via an alternate forum or email.

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Old 09-28-06, 04:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roadjungle
Haesslich Wrote: "As far as the Apple Polish fix goes, I'm not the one who discovered it"

I think your missing the point. We were not talking about Apple Polish. We were talking about a product that you had no experience with that you were recommending to the forum without research at that time.
Why are you bringing back posts regarding a better pocket PC? I had requested that those posts be removed due to the anxiety they had caused to a selected few. The people that wanted the information asked me directly and were given the information via an alternate forum or email.
I don't think it's necessary to flame as Haesslich is just offering a suggestion. However, it's up to the owner's discretion as to whether or not they wish to try it, at the risk of perhaps what you're worried about - in that case, you don't have to try it. It is nice to know what alternatives I'd have to my rubbery screen protector though.

Back to topic, I've noticed my teflon lubricant ends up wearing off almost as soon as it dries off, so you're right in that it doesn't 'stick' to the invisibleshield - the shield goes back to rubbery texture almost as soon as the lube dries. I guess i'll have to go pick up some silicon lubricant to give it a go sometime =)
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Old 09-29-06, 01:32 AM   #25 (permalink)
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invisibleSHIELD is NOT a good choice for Transcriber use

I purchased the InvisibleShield, and am returning it tomorrow. It is very sticky and makes entry via transcriber an exercise in frustration.
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Old 09-29-06, 02:10 AM   #26 (permalink)
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guetschj: if you are going to use a protector for sure, I suggest that you don't return the invisibleshield until you try another protector. I too was frustrated by the invisibleshield and then ordered another protector on the same day. When the other protector arrived, I found out the protector is also not perfect for handwriting recognition. Invisibleshield looks brighter; it will not trap dust underneath; and it will not shift once it is adhered (both the dust and the shift slightly affect handwriting recognition). As I understand, you have 30 days to return the invisibleshield if you find a better protector.

I need more time to conclude whether silicone spray is a sustainable solution to fix the stickiness problem of invisibleshield. I am still keeping the other protector just in case.
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What?

Originally Posted by Lat
I don't think it's necessary to flame as Haesslich is just offering a suggestion. However, it's up to the owner's discretion as to whether or not they wish to try it, at the risk of perhaps what you're worried about - in that case, you don't have to try it. It is nice to know what alternatives I'd have to my rubbery screen protector though.
What? I think that point has been made several times. No one is flaming. Let's try and get back to the topic.

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Old 10-05-06, 05:04 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Well, finally bought myself some silicon lubricant, and it's working like a charm. Now I gotta see out how long it'll last, but i got a pretty large can for ~$5, so I can always reapply. I love the feel now...not as slippery as the teflon stuff that wore off right away, but just the right texture. Almost naked screen-like.
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I would just like to report that the silicone grease is just working fine and dandy after a full week...feels smooth still as like when i first applied the grease. I'll update again in maybe another few weeks, and see how much the lubricant wears off, but I love the results as of now.
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Old 10-09-06, 10:27 PM   #30 (permalink)
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It took about 2 or so weeks of constant use for my silicone to wear off last time. It's not a bad deal, outside of the fact that dust and hairs are a LITTLE more prone to stick to the screen now (but which can be picked off easily by a stylus).
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