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Old 12-21-04, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bad! Seido
I just got the Seido Sync and Charge cable and,well...IT DOESNT CHARGE!! I have had it hooked up for wo hours and nothing!. I have tried with the device on and on and neither way charges it. The ligh on the Pocket PC lights up but thats it!

Piece of garbage!
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Old 12-21-04, 02:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If it doesn't work, send it back!
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Old 12-21-04, 02:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It also will no longer retract! Consumer warning thats all.
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Old 12-21-04, 03:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If the power button light is on, it's charging. Or at least it's running from the power in the cable. If you have a lot of draw (bright screen, BT/WiFi running, GPS) then it may not be charging very fast, but if the light is on, it's using the external power. The X50v is a power hog, for sure. If the batteries were very much discharged when you plugged in the cable the demand may be very close to what the cable can provide. Try charging with the charger from Dell and then use the cable just to keep it topped off.
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Old 12-21-04, 04:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Wayne Mahon
Bad! Seido!




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Old 12-21-04, 05:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JakeRich
If the power button light is on, it's charging. Or at least it's running from the power in the cable. If you have a lot of draw (bright screen, BT/WiFi running, GPS) then it may not be charging very fast, but if the light is on, it's using the external power. The X50v is a power hog, for sure. If the batteries were very much discharged when you plugged in the cable the demand may be very close to what the cable can provide. Try charging with the charger from Dell and then use the cable just to keep it topped off.
I even tried with the screen of. I did a full test. I see the screen flickering and it seems the connector is garbage
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Old 12-21-04, 06:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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LMAO!!!!
I just watched it drain my battery! I sat there with the back light on and watched it drain my battery 1% every 4 seconds!! What kind of crap is this!
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Old 12-21-04, 06:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I got this cable yesterday and have been testing it out today. I am having the same problems you are. It syncs, but it doesn't charge, even if the x50 is turned off. The amber charge light does light up, but the battery level keeps decreasing.

I also get the flicker problem when the x50 is turned on. I believe this is caused by the PDA going in and out of battery mode. When I set the brightness settings to be the same for battery and external power, it stops blinking.

I'll be contacting the company and sending this piece of junk back. I'll be pretty mad if they make me pay shipping.
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Old 12-21-04, 08:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I was just thinking of buying the Seidio G2500 Car Kit for Dell X50, and now you have me wondering if that product would have similiar problems....

The problem you are having is with a USB power cable???

I have never purchased anything from this company.. Should I be worried about the car charger?? or is this a different beast entirely..

Any insight you can offer is greatly appreciated, before I go and blow $75 on something that doesn't work..

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Old 12-21-04, 08:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Our problem is with the retractable charge/sync cable. The car kit doesn't use this cable.
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Old 12-21-04, 08:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I got my RMA this morning and shipped my 3 in 1 kit back this afternoon. I wrote a letter stating that I would never have bought it had they accurately listed the product specs., and include a printout of the website when it USED to say it would charge via the USB port. I've asked them to refund shipping as well, it's only $8...but it's my 8 bucks!!

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Old 12-21-04, 09:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'd like the car mount also, but will wait for the fully functional version!!!
It has the GPS serial connection, but it doesn't work YET. I use BT, but serial functionality may be an issues if I sell everything a year from now etc.
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Old 12-21-04, 10:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I received my RMA this afternoon and will be returning mine as well. I feel that I was misled. Shipping charges are not refundable, though . By the time this is over I will have spent nearly $13 on shipping charges. What a waste.
 
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Old 12-21-04, 11:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I wasn't even including the return shipping cost...now you got me pissed!

Last edited by Cheryl : 12-22-04 at 12:30 PM. Reason: my own blockheadedness
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Old 12-21-04, 11:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This issue is more with the USB specs. USB Host ports make available either 100 mA or 500 mA of power at 5.5 v. The X50 standard battery is 1100 mAh. If you get 3 hours of use from it, then the X50 is drawing about 400 mA just to run. Not much extra current available to start with.

Now add the extra power you need to charge the battery. Note that the Dell mains power supply is rated at 2400 mA. It's that robust for a reason: the charging circuit will draw a LOT of power to charge the battery when it is significantly depleted. I've noted that when the battery is heavily depleted even the mains power unit runs warm, indicating to me that the draw is pretty high. The charging circuit in the Ax kicks in to charge the battery whenever the battery is below 100% and 5 v or so is available at the port. If the battery is more than about 80%, and if you keep the screen brightness on external power down at a lower level, and if you don't run BT/WiFI/hard drives/GPS/etc, then a USB port can keep up, barely. Below about 80%, or with heavier usage by bright screens, etc, the USB port runs out of oomph, and voltage drops as the current draw exceeds its ability to support. Two things happen: First, the Ax switches to battery and back to external as the USB port drops in voltage and recovers when the Ax quits drawing power and secondly the charging circuit starts to draw the power it needs any time 5v is present at the port EVEN IF THE CURRENT SUPPLY IS INADEQUATE. If the supply is inadequate, the circuit will start to draw from the battery to make up the shortfall, in essence charging the battery FROM the battery. The net effect is that the battery discharges even quicker plugged in than it does disconnected. The alternating accept/reject external power is what makes the screen flicker--if you have the brighness set differently for the two options.

So, while you can keep a battery charged and run the X50 from a USB port, it's going to be dicey, no matter who makes the cable.

For better success, use the USB cable to charge the battery when it is above 80%, keep the X50 OFF, or dim the screen as much as you can stand, don't use wifi or BT and don't use things like hard drives and GPS units.

The same logic applies to car chargers. Make sure the charger you get supplies 5.5v, not 5v, at 850 mA, not 350 or even 600. The lesser units simply won't be able to keep up with the demand.
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