I appoligize if this was covered, but I dont have time to read through 13 pages of posts...
Is the acctual Dell sync cable (which also charges off the USB) afflicted with this problem?
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That's odd, mine charges all times (but then I do have the AC Adapter plugged into it --- I assume you mean basically just sucking power off the external "battery" VIA usb cabel, isntead of using hte Axim's internal one) Thanks though! I may have to buy one tha can do both sometime...
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That's odd, mine charges all times (but then I do have the AC Adapter plugged into it --- I assume you mean basically just sucking power off the external "battery" VIA usb cabel, isntead of using hte Axim's internal one) Thanks though! I may have to buy one tha can do both sometime...
This warning is only for charging from USB. If you have the AC adapter plugged in then yes it will charge if the Axim is on or off. 3rd party cables do not have the spot to even plug in an AC adapter and that is the reason why they changed from the way the cables were designed to the way that many early USB cables were produced.
I have a x51v, I DID open the cradle cut the RED wire from AC input and jump it to the 5v USB (RED too).
Only one simple jumper!
I heve been using it to USB sync and charge with NO issues. It works pretty good to me on my Dell Latitude D610 notebook.
No extra accessories.
Okay, Been to all the Walmarts, Circuit City, Radioshack... you name it I've probably been there looking for the Pelican PSP car charger. Apparently Pelican had two design. The one that look like a regular car charger (i.e. everything attached) and one that is a car chager BUT it attaches a USB cable. Both model are PL6003. The only one I can find so far is the USB one. From what I read that is the wrong one and I have to get the other one. Problem is that I can't find one. Anyone have success in using the USB one and does it have spec on it. thanks
The Dell car charger which I could never find on the UK Dell site has finally show up again.
Manufacturer Part: 450-11326
Dell Part: 66878
It's not USB, which was/is ideally what I want, but does say it can charge while in use or not.
Has anyone got any experience of this charger.
Also, I guess whatever charger is used, the X51v will charge quicker with the power off, but does anyone know how much quicker? How much charge would I get in how much time when on and off?
Depends on what you're doing on the axim while it's charging, and how much power it takes. REading an Ebook will take almost no power, while playing a 3D game will take quite a bit. Theoretically, you could acctually take ALL the AC power and end up with NO charging on your battery.
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14 pages.. damn. Can someone just Sum it up for me.. which cable to buy? for charging and syncing?
also planing to use the cable with conjunction of a usb charger
also plan to purchase the huge 3300mAh super mugen. battery. will that work? or do i have cut, solder,, twist a wire? ... some of you guys are extreme. .
14 pages.. damn. Can someone just Sum it up for me.. which cable to buy? for charging and syncing?
also planing to use the cable with conjunction of a usb charger
also plan to purchase the huge 3300mAh super mugen. battery. will that work? or do i have cut, solder,, twist a wire? ... some of you guys are extreme. .
If you want to charge the battery while the Axim is on from USB then the easy answer in my view is none. Just give up now because there is no safe way to make this cable.
Dell makes a nice USB sync cable that has a place to plug in your AC adapter. The cable can charge the Axim while it is off from USB. Or can charge anytime when an AC adapter is plugged into it.
I never tested the 3300mAh battery but I expect it would require around 1.4 A or 1400 mA to charge at max current. Still well within whats safe for use with an AC adapter but not even close to what I would try over USB.
what about a "double" USB cable? i have one for my 2.5 inch portable HD enclosure that used laptop hard drives. the end that plugs into the computer is split in 2, allowing for more power to the HD, since some laptop usb ports dont provide enough juice. will that type of cable suffice?
what about a "double" USB cable? i have one for my 2.5 inch portable HD enclosure that used laptop hard drives. the end that plugs into the computer is split in 2, allowing for more power to the HD, since some laptop usb ports dont provide enough juice. will that type of cable suffice?
It might, but it might not. And the "punishment" for the "not" option is that you fry the mobo of the laptop. If the laptop can push out 2 A through the ports, and if each USB port can handle 1 A, then you might get away with it. Since both of those "ifs" are out of spec for USB ports, you're taking a serious risk.
Bottom line--The Axim can draw a lot more current than USB ports built to spec can support. Listen to Kenban, give it up.
what about a "double" USB cable? i have one for my 2.5 inch portable HD enclosure that used laptop hard drives. the end that plugs into the computer is split in 2, allowing for more power to the HD, since some laptop usb ports dont provide enough juice. will that type of cable suffice?
This might sound odd but your 2.5 inch HD uses less power then your Axim during charging. There are around 3 differant levels of power usage by a hard drive. Spin up which is right when you turn the drive on requires the most power. The lowest power mode is idle just when the drive is spining but not actually doing anything. The third is when your are actually using the drive and this will vary depending on how much the drive head is moving but could use up to around 2/3's of the power draw during spin up.
For average drives this comes out to between 800 and 1000 mA for spin up. When you see a power draw rating on the drive thats what the number actually means.
The lowest draw idle is only around 100 to 200 mA.
Seek can go as high as 700 mA but I know there are WD drives that are only around 500 mA (not sure how many of their products are that low though).
Max power draw for a single USB port can be 500mA. For two assuming everything is equal it should be 1000mA. As you can see from my numbers above I am unaware of any drives that use more power then 2 USB ports could provide. The Axim CAN when charging a 2200 mAh battery. I believe (but have no tests to prove) that a 3300 mAh battery will need more power then the two ports can supply even without the Axim being on.
*** NOT SURE is all the initial research described in the earlier posts still apply... ***
I ended up buying a kit that contains an usb-to-axim sync cord, a car-to-usb adaptor and a wall-to-car adaptor. There are a handful of commercial sellers on ebay. Some list the car adaptor spec, some did not. There were 2 sellers that sold 1 Amp ones. I bought from accessoryshelf.com for $12.15. Received 8 days later.
As soon as I plugged the usb cable into my pc, the AXIM was recognized and ActiveSync worked fine. Now it is running bluetooth, wifi, and charging at the same time. ** According to ealier posts, this is suppose to kill my motherboard **
The usb cord looks thick and pretty well made. The wall charger works fine too. I will try the car charger this weekend, but I expect it will be ok.
*** NOT SURE is all the initial research described in the earlier posts still apply... ***
I ended up buying a kit that contains an usb-to-axim sync cord, a car-to-usb adaptor and a wall-to-car adaptor. There are a handful of commercial sellers on ebay. Some list the car adaptor spec, some did not. There were 2 sellers that sold 1 Amp ones. I bought from accessoryshelf.com for $12.15. Received 8 days later.
As soon as I plugged the usb cable into my pc, the AXIM was recognized and ActiveSync worked fine. Now it is running bluetooth, wifi, and charging at the same time. ** According to ealier posts, this is suppose to kill my motherboard **
The usb cord looks thick and pretty well made. The wall charger works fine too. I will try the car charger this weekend, but I expect it will be ok.
The research does apply. When I wrote the original post I was still doing research and I wanted to get the information out because there were a lot of poeple who were having problems and I felt that I could explain why the problems were happening. Since then I did prove my thoughts were correct.
I have thought of starting a new thread more then once but have never bothered to do it. The biggest problem seems to be that people assume I am wrong because it works for them. I wrote this as a warning against using the cables and was trying to say what could happen. Look at it this way there are 7 million Sony labtop batteries that have been recalled but there have not even been 50 total reported problems. This means that so far it has occured in less then 1 out of every 100,000 batteries. I think that you have a better chance of kiling your computer then that but I am not sure how much higher. Total I only remember 2 or 3 people who have reported on these forums that their computer died after using one of these type of cables.
I have never and will never say that using one of these cables WILL destroy your computer I have said it CAN happen. USB specs say that the maximum current is 500 mA. A spec sheet and the real world are two differant things. Any good computer designer/builder will put in an overhead to handle devices that are out of spec. Some motherboards use ports that shutdown if too much current is being drawn. Others work just fine and a very small number will cause a larger problem.
In the end I think this is very similar to overclocking your computer. For most people its fine and nothing happens but not everyone is that lucky. This thread is a warning that I want people to think about before they use one of these cables so they realize the possible risk no matter how small it is. If you ignore it thats your choice but do not assume the warning is not real just because it works for you.
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