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Old 09-28-05, 07:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Will not work with regular batterys. Those batterys have a charge of 1.5, while the NIMH batterys have a voltage of 1.2. Therefore 4 series 1.2 = 4.8, the necessary charge needed to maintain and charge a Dell PDA.

Does anyone know the exact specifications of the Dell PDA Power requitements? Because the 9600mAh Li-Ion pack only supplys 3.6 V of power, not nearly enough for the Axim. I believe its ~5 v?
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Old 09-28-05, 10:34 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I suspected that might be the case. Could a voltage regulator of some kind be used?
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Old 09-28-05, 10:51 PM   #33 (permalink)
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If it regulates the voltage at ~5V it would be great! I find that sometimes the power fluctuates a little when the batteries run low, so this regulator would be perfect.
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Old 09-29-05, 06:58 AM   #34 (permalink)
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If it regulates the voltage at ~5V it would be great! I find that sometimes the power fluctuates a little when the batteries run low, so this regulator would be perfect.
Reading around, it seems that using a 7805 voltage regulator with a 9V battery (or more AA cells) is the way to go. Apparently 6V isn't enough for the 7805 to properly regulate to 5V, although I need to read up on this properly when I have the time. I actually have a nice power supply with a variable voltage regulator in it that I built during my degree a long, long time ago, but I can't remember how much of it works these days. :(

In other news the PSU for the cradle claims to output 5.4 VDC - I've measured mine at 5.6VDC, which confirms for me that it has a voltage regulator so one is definitely required for a battery charger.
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Old 09-29-05, 02:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Positive or negative tip?

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Old 09-29-05, 05:57 PM   #36 (permalink)
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painethom ~ Positive tip for the X50 (most stuff is nowadays).

Tim_L ~ The LM7805 has a max current rating of 1A, not enough for the AX unless running processor in battery save mode with wireless switched off. Also the LM7805 would be a waste of power as it is a resistive device rather than the modern switching voltage regulators.
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Originally Posted by Snerkel
painethom ~ Positive tip for the X50 (most stuff is nowadays).

Tim_L ~ The LM7805 has a max current rating of 1A, not enough for the AX unless running processor in battery save mode with wireless switched off. Also the LM7805 would be a waste of power as it is a resistive device rather than the modern switching voltage regulators.
Curses, foiled again!

Is there any sort of practical voltage regulation that would be appropriate for this application? I still find the idea being able to power the Axim from plain store-bought cells attractive for emergencies.
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Old 09-29-05, 06:53 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Curses, foiled again!

Is there any sort of practical voltage regulation that would be appropriate for this application? I still find the idea being able to power the Axim from plain store-bought cells attractive for emergencies.
The problem tends to be that the circuits for the switch mode power supplies tend to be a little large if built using breadboard. darkdestroyer used what is a nice simple design that requires no regulation, and this is probably the way to go for a cheap easy to build system, however you do need charged NiMH batteries.

I am currently testing a power station (made for the Sony PSP) that is basically a battery pack with charging and voltage regulation circuit built-in (mentioned elsewhere on this site), it is very neat and so far is working very well (I am looping a movie to test running times). I will report on this soon, along with my mod to the unit to make it more universal for use with other devices.
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This idea came to me right after I got home from BestBuy. I saw a PSP Charging brick and found out that it's charging pin fits right in with the Axim. Instead of paying 19.99 for a charging brick, i decided to make my own. And thus.... the 4x AA NiMh 2500mAh battery pack that is the same size as the PSP charger brick.
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Old 10-05-05, 02:01 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Has anyone tried these USB Power Packs? Appear to be a 4 AA cell pack with a USB female connector. You can use either of the USB charging cables.

EBay USB Power Pack

I've got a similar one coming to use my X50v on long plane trips.
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Many other options exist for converting a 12V source to 5V (or 5.5V) (I used parts from TI)

http://zimmynet.com/bp/

Just to be safe, on my 3rd party sync/charge cable, I disconnected the +5 PWR feed, so it would only charge when power was off (via USB)).

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I wonder if anyone else would want one of these. I can get the parts from yard sales and makign them doesn't take much time at all. Is anyone else interested? I may sell these to people who want them.
How much do you think you would charge? I guess shipping might also add some cost. I live in Chicago.
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I guess i'll charge maybe 10$ for this?
I'll have to find a source of AA battery holders and the male power jack. If you want it, i can sell it to you or guide you to some stores in your area.
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I have been making these for awhile starting with an iPaq 3600 in 2001 You can use regular batteries AA, AAA, C or D or a 6v lantern battery. (40000 Mah.) You need to use a cheap diode inline to reduce voltage to 4.8v.
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I guess i'll charge maybe 10$ for this?
I'll have to find a source of AA battery holders and the male power jack. If you want it, i can sell it to you or guide you to some stores in your area.
In the old days, i.e. while I was an undergrad or in school, I would have just done it myself, but now I have trouble finding the time. I found out that Walmart carries the power bricks for the PSP for around $20.

(I'm not sure I will actually ever need it, but it would be nice to have the charger in my lab coat or instrument bag.)

I just got an email update from Dell. My x51v won't be delivered for another 2 or 3 weeks

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