X51 v will not connect with V710 - Page 2

10-19-05, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ironman945

I've got a V710 and X51v. I got the X51v to use the V710 as a modem. I'll admit it was tricky and weird. Took me a while to figure it out.

If I remeber correctly, I would have the V710 in discoverable mode (the 'Find Me' option on the V710) and the X51v would scan find it and then ask for a passkey. Confirm on the V710 but when the BT profile list came up on the X51v it would be empty. I clicked 'Ok' or whatever. Then my X51v would say "Motorola Phone wants to bond with your handheld. Confirm?" <-something along that line.

I would click yes and this time I would see modem listed as an option. If you have trouble and can't get it to work as a modem just send me a PM or reply.

Hope this helps. Maybe I should do this again and take pictures? A step-by-step guide maybe?

I have tried this countless times before and after reading this thread and sitll can't get this to work. Are you entering a passkey on the Axim? If not, what passkey do you enter on the V710? If I enter a passkey on the Axim, the phone will bond and accept the same passkey, but then I will lose the connection with the Axim and I can't get the Axim to bond. If I don't choose a passkey, the Axim will say the phone is trying to connect, but the phone requires a passkey and the Axim won't accept the same passkey as I input into the phone.

I would really like to get this to work.

maloof6 · 10-19-05, 09:11 PM

It would be really great if someone could post a step by step. I have had the same experience as above.
This should not be this hard.

saltschu · 10-19-05, 10:09 PM

So would I. Since I count on the bluetooth connection heavily, even just a couple of days of no functionality is very furstrating already, here is what I'm going to do. I'm going to verizon to have the v710 flashed to the latest approved OS tomorrow and I'm taking the new X51v with me. If I can bond successfully and get the DUN profile, we will all have our answer. If that fails, I'm going to try a new E815 in the store. If that works, I'm nuying the damn phone which is essentially an upgrade to the v710. I know that no one wants to spend $200 to potentially solve this problem, but I can't wait any longer. I'll post tomorrow and let you all know.

Thanks.

10-20-05, 01:26 AM

It should work with the E815. I could partner with my friend's E815 on my X51v without a problem. It seems only the V710 is unable to partner correctly.

saltschu · 10-20-05, 01:29 AM

$200 it is. This is what I get for being an early adopter. I'll let you know what happens tomorrow. Thank you.

mandersonle · 10-20-05, 07:36 AM

If you have bluetooth on a laptop or desktop you could try to bond with it. That would help to determine if the problem is with the phone or the X51v.

Ironman945 · 10-20-05, 08:22 AM

Wow, I can see this is quite a problem.

Here is what I sent to someone in a PM

"ok, I deleted the partnership off both devices to try it all over again. I got it to work several times, so this should work.

Ok, hit "Find Me" on the V710.

Scan for new devices on your Axim by hitting "New Partnership"
It will find the phone and ask for a passkey, type it in.

Phone will ask if you want to bond, select Yes. Then the phone will ask for the passkey. Enter the same one you entered on the Axim.
And select yes or ok or whatever.

Phone will verify and save.

Axim will keep going and say it was rejected or whatever and ask for the passkey again. Enter in the same passkey. This time it should be ok and ask which services you want to use.

If you see Dialup Networking select it and you are in business.

If it is like mine you won't see any services. Click Refresh at the bottom right, may need to minimize the keyboard. It should bring up "Dialup Networking" select it and hit finish.

Lemme know if this helps."

Just to be clear, this did not help this person, but I thought I would post it anyways.

For the record I have the Dell Axim X51v with WM 5.0
My Phone is the Motorola V710 from Verizon Wireless
S/W Version: 8700_01.40.0R

I've used this phone before as a BT Modem for my laptop using a USB BT Dongle.

I just connected to the internet using my Axim and the V710. Went to a new site to make sure it wasn't a cache site.

I'm not sure what to say, I got it to work using the steps above.

I'm also interested in the E815, I bought the V710 right when it came out, one insurance replacement in May. But I have to check my old apartment mailbox for the settlement paperwork. Wonder if I can make an even trade with the V710 for the E815. Probably need to check howardforums.com to see if anyone else has done that.

Anyways, I hope this helps some people. I know it can be frustrating. Mine was not working at first, but finally after messing with it I got it to work.

I'll be out of town this weekend, but if I get a chance to sit down when I get back I'll go through the steps again and see if I can see if I'm doing something I did not document.

Good luck everyone.

10-20-05, 11:51 AM

Tried those steps and it still won't show "Dialup Networking" under the profiles for the phone on the Axim. I wonder if you have a particular setting that is different on the phone or the Axim.

Ironman945 · 10-20-05, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by rbg08

Tired those steps and it still won't show "Dialup Networking" under the profiles for the phone on the Axim. I wonder if you have a particular setting that is different on the phone or the Axim.

That's what I'm thinking. I had the same problem everyone is talking about on this thread and then somehow I got DUN to show up.

I'm sorry, but I don't have time to sit down and look at it in detail right now. I'll be out of town this weekend, be back Monday Evening. Taking a whirlwind tour of Chicago...

Anyways, if there is a particulr setting or detail I should look at, post it on here or PM me. I'll check it out when I get a chance to sit down.

In the meantime enjoy your Axims and don't play too much Toy Golf!! I'm terrible at real golf and Toy Golf, I think that's why I'm not a huge golf fan... he he

mandersonle · 10-21-05, 11:43 AM

I was just able to connect to my V710 using a bluetooth dongle plugged into my laptop. The issue connecting to the X51v appears to be a setting on the Axim. I will try to mess around with mine again later now that I know it isn't a phone issue.

saltschu · 10-21-05, 04:34 PM

Well, I went to Verizon Wireless and had my v710 flashed to the latest OS, version 2.03 I believe. Still, NO Dial-up Networking profile would be recognized. I attempted to make a connection with the E815 that replaced it in the sotre, and naturally, that connected just fine as many on the forums had indicated. So, I bought a new phone. It was $150 with a one-yar contrat + rebate of $50 dollars or $100 with a 2-year contract.

Wish I could have found a way to make it work without the expense.

maloof6 · 10-22-05, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by saltschu

So would I. Since I count on the bluetooth connection heavily, even just a couple of days of no functionality is very furstrating already, here is what I'm going to do. I'm going to verizon to have the v710 flashed to the latest approved OS tomorrow and I'm taking the new X51v with me. If I can bond successfully and get the DUN profile, we will all have our answer. If that fails, I'm going to try a new E815 in the store. If that works, I'm nuying the damn phone which is essentially an upgrade to the v710. I know that no one wants to spend $200 to potentially solve this problem, but I can't wait any longer. I'll post tomorrow and let you all know.

Thanks.

What did you find out about the 815 or did flashing the 710 work??

saltschu · 10-22-05, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by maloof6

What did you find out about the 815 or did flashing the 710 work??

The v710 will simply NOT indicate to an Axim X51v with Windows Mobile 5.0 that it is capable of Dial-Up Networking. I bought the E815 to replace it, and had no difficulties pairing the two.

However, Verizon actually disables the DUN profile in the E815 (which I found at long after I had left the store) so that while the PDA will make the connection and will start to make the call, it almost immediately, disconnects. In other words, the DUN profile exists ONLY to connect to verizon's new Vcast service which they want to charge you $15 a month for. It will not work as a data modem.

That being said, I searched many forums and found how how to re-eanble the phone for use as a data modem and now it works just fine. To do so, all you need to do is dial "##dialup" as if you were making a phone call. The phone will flash dialog that says "Dial Up Networking Enabled" when successful. If it doesn't work, you're simply dialing too slow. That's all there is to it.

In conclusion, verizon sucks, I spent $150 becuse the v710 sucks, perhaps window mobile 5 sucks because the v710 hooked up with everything else, and I had to hack my new phone to make it work. Got it?

10-22-05, 11:37 AM

This really sucks for me because I bought the V710 right after the E815 was released. I could have purchased either for the same price. The only reason I bought the V710 over the E815 is because Verizon had stated that dial-up networking was disabled on the new E815 and I didn't know it was going to be so easy to reenable it. I knew lots of people were using the V710 as a dial-ip modem for PPCs, so I thought that it was my only option. Now it turns out to be the only option that dosen't work. :realmad:

maloof6 · 10-23-05, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by saltschu

The v710 will simply NOT indicate to an Axim X51v with Windows Mobile 5.0 that it is capable of Dial-Up Networking. I bought the E815 to replace it, and had no difficulties pairing the two.

However, Verizon actually disables the DUN profile in the E815 (which I found at long after I had left the store) so that while the PDA will make the connection and will start to make the call, it almost immediately, disconnects. In other words, the DUN profile exists ONLY to connect to verizon's new Vcast service which they want to charge you $15 a month for. It will not work as a data modem.

That being said, I searched many forums and found how how to re-eanble the phone for use as a data modem and now it works just fine. To do so, all you need to do is dial "##dialup" as if you were making a phone call. The phone will flash dialog that says "Dial Up Networking Enabled" when successful. If it doesn't work, you're simply dialing too slow. That's all there is to it.

In conclusion, verizon sucks, I spent $150 becuse the v710 sucks, perhaps window mobile 5 sucks because the v710 hooked up with everything else, and I had to hack my new phone to make it work. Got it?

Sorry about all the hassle and cost. So are you saying that the 815 finally paired with the x51 and connected with the internet after you enabled the DUN profile in the phone?

Do you have a link for us all to look at on enabling the 815 DUN.
Thanks for all the research.