I installed the WM5 upgrade+AS4.x and have been trying to embrace it painfully like most users, but I have hope to get use to the new architecture and hopefully help the developers moving forward.
Learning about WM5 and Persistent storage, which is a major design change in WM5, WM5/PS to help my data/programs/settings, etc. survive across hard reset.
HOWEVER....
Today, I installed few programs (WorldmatePro, Citytime). Few minutes later, I found a blank screen and sudden hard-reset is invoked.
After my hard-reset, my PIM data indeed was there, however all my add-on programs are not really usable. There is no entries in start-program, all 3rd party Today-plugins are not there. I am sure all the directories are there, but so what..Their run-time environment is not there...Therefore unuseable.
ONLY built-in programs (Calendar, Contacts, etc..) are useable.
Fortunately, I did a backup using the built-in utility (BTW, very slow and buggy). So I painfully restore (takes forever..) and finally recovered...
I am now thinking, what is the purpose of WM5/Persistent storage if I still have to keep a backup as before. if I have a hard-reset, I still have to restore as before...And now with WM5, programs are much more unstable, slow...because mostly of PS.
I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that a hard reset (done by simultaneously pressing the reset and power buttons) is still supposed to reset the registry to the default settings which means any programs that require a registry setting would no longer work. A power loss, however, is not supposed to result in a hard reset like used to happen.
I quess I'm also wondering why you did a hard reset because of a blank screen. Did a soft reset not work?
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Ike hit the nail on the head. I think the more appropriate question is: what would be the point of a hard reset if it didn't wipe out all of the data? :rolling:
After I got the WSoD, hard-reset just automatically invoked.
My point here is:
1-With WM2003, I carry a backup and when my unit is out of power, hard-reset happens and I just restore my backup. If a sudden hard reset, I'd do the same thing
2-With WM5 now, I have to do exactly the same for sudden hard-reset (like what happened to me earlier)
Perhaps with WM5, in case power runs out I might be able to save a restore. But I don't know what the state of the device after it is charged back up. Does you unit remember all your settings like before or just looks like a hard-reset with your PIM data survived but all your add-on programs are unusable?
Conclusion: WM5/PS only benefits people who don't have a backup on their device and they run out of power...
At least with the x51v if you completely drain the battery, when you charge it and restart you will go through a soft reset and be back where you were as to all installed data and programs. (If you left a program running without saving the data that data would be lost since it was in ram)
SolSie, how did your device hard-reset? Was it due to an incompatible program? Running out of power or yanking out the battery will cause a soft-reset, not do a hard-reset.
On the WM5, when you run out of power and then restore power, it'll just be like a soft-reset: all your stored programs are still there but programs that were running will not longer to running.
SolSie, how did your device hard-reset? Was it due to an incompatible program? Running out of power or yanking out the battery will cause a soft-reset, not do a hard-reset.
On the WM5, when you run out of power and then restore power, it'll just be like a soft-reset: all your stored programs are still there but programs that were running will not longer to running.
It was a sudden hard reset. I guess perhaps due to some programs I installed just prior to this.
I did test a power drained 100% and wait for 30mn. As you said, as soon as I put a new battery in, everything is back even without any reset. :approve: