Not running Odyssey S/W Improves WM5 usage

kenomail · 12-06-05, 01:54 PM

One recommendation - DO NOT use Odyssey s/w with WM5.

Removing has improved my X50v:
machine performance a lot,
improved battery time,
response time on menu interactions.

Even with Processor on Power Saving results are very good.

Also, I think there is a core issue with WM5 on the X50v where it has system resource issues coming out of standby mode. If you know you are going to use your Axim for a while on the battery - change settings to keep it on - just dim display after 30 seconds. In this mode I got over 3 hours of on time and battery was still at 60%.

Hope this helps others sticking with WM5.

bluevolume · 12-06-05, 01:59 PM

Read the thread about the "filesys.exe" process.

There is no known pattern for the system slowdown, so far its been entirely coincidence when people think they have fixed it.

12-06-05, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by bluevolume

Read the thread about the "filesys.exe" process.

There is no known pattern for the system slowdown, so far its been entirely coincidence when people think they have fixed it.

while i agree with you that it has been 'solved' many times, i posted this exact same thing and so far over 100 people have looked at it without responding but i did the same thing and it made an incredible improvement. and it is repeatable. start up odyssey and it slows down, exit from it and it goes back to normal. another thing, since i have always had odyssey running i would never get below 208mhz clock. now it goes to 104 a lot. of course this isn't going to fix everyone's problems but if you have odyssey running in the tray at the bottom, try exiting from it and see if it helps. if not.... nothing lost. :approve:

kenomail · 12-06-05, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by bigdave240

while i agree with you that it has been 'solved' many times, i posted this exact same thing and so far over 100 people have looked at it without responding but i did the same thing and it made an incredible improvement. and it is repeatable. start up odyssey and it slows down, exit from it and it goes back to normal. another thing, since i have always had odyssey running i would never get below 208mhz clock. now it goes to 104 a lot. of course this isn't going to fix everyone's problems but if you have odyssey running in the tray at the bottom, try exiting from it and see if it helps. if not.... nothing lost. :approve:

agreed - to others - try it - you WILL like it.

bluevolume · 12-06-05, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by bigdave240

while i agree with you that it has been 'solved' many times, i posted this exact same thing and so far over 100 people have looked at it without responding but i did the same thing and it made an incredible improvement. and it is repeatable. start up odyssey and it slows down, exit from it and it goes back to normal. another thing, since i have always had odyssey running i would never get below 208mhz clock. now it goes to 104 a lot. of course this isn't going to fix everyone's problems but if you have odyssey running in the tray at the bottom, try exiting from it and see if it helps. if not.... nothing lost. :approve:

If you can give me an exact process, I will try it. I have already replaced the odyssey file in Windows with a dummy, so I thought I'd essentially disabled it already. It has had no effect on the CPU problem on my control machine.

Let me know what I should do differently and I will try it. I'm just an unpaid Dell beta tester like everyone else here.

ronb · 12-06-05, 02:35 PM

what is Odyssey?

kenomail · 12-06-05, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by ronb

what is Odyssey?

Dell provided s/w that manages connectivity to WIFI networks. Just exit from system tray. If it is not there, it is not enabled.

DAMiEN · 12-06-05, 04:04 PM

All these threads just points to a few things that we all already know. WM5 is sevearly impared and although we think we find all kinds of fixes the only once who can really fix it is MS and Dell.

12-06-05, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by DAMiEN

All these threads just points to a few things that we all already know. WM5 is sevearly impared and although we think we find all kinds of fixes the only once who can really fix it is MS and Dell.

Agreed, however some of this is due to the differences in how the two OS's work. Some of the tweaks that i have tried since learning about them on this site have worked and others have not but some of the fundamental things like making sure that you power off wifi before turning off the pda or making sure that if the pda wakes up at midnight to do its little daily dance that it does that it cannot connect to try to sync or it won't turn off automatically, some of that has now become 'good habits'. It would be really nice if Dell/MS would fix these iritants but it doesn't appear that they will. So in my opinion it gets down to the old PC/MAC thing. You either put up with this stuff to a certain degree so that you have all of the good stuff that comes with it or you go get a Palm and lose some of the features but reduce the headaches. Either way you still have a pda that probably cost too much but at least at this point we still have that choice to make. Beta testing can be fun :rolling:

Li0rE · 12-06-05, 04:42 PM

Odyssey Client is garbage.

Not only does it completely screw up your battery life, but once you start up the device it makes it studder for about 40 seconds, until you can use it again. In addition to THIS, it slows overall performance, and hardly works.

kenomail · 12-06-05, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by DAMiEN

All these threads just points to a few things that we all already know. WM5 is sevearly impared and although we think we find all kinds of fixes the only once who can really fix it is MS and Dell.

Odyssey is third party, layered OS software that I am sure Dell never tested throroughly before releasing with WM5 upgrade. Trust me, I have been in the computer industry for 17 years and another 13 in telecom - layered third party s/w testing is the last thing computer manufacturers test. So, we are all free QA for Dell. I am sure they are taking notes from this forum to develop test plans for the next WM5 update. They should think about hiring some of you guys :)

12-06-05, 09:29 PM

Actually for what Odyssey is intended for, it works pretty well. It just causes problems on the WM5 OS. It worked well on 2003SE. And it wass free. It is the only way I can get into our network at the office. It will get fixed along with everything else, just a matter of when. where is MrKlaatu when we need him?

mkss55442 · 12-06-05, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by bigdave240

Actually for what Odyssey is intended for, it works pretty well. It just causes problems on the WM5 OS. It worked well on 2003SE. And it wass free. It is the only way I can get into our network at the office. It will get fixed along with everything else, just a matter of when. where is MrKlaatu when we need him?

I found it was a huge battery drain just having it enabled on 2003SE. Didn't have to have wifi turned on for the battery drain.

Yukster · 12-07-05, 03:19 AM

I agree, Odyssey sucks. I made a mistake and ran it once, and after that, from standby, it took about 30 seconds to resume from standby. Disablind Odyssey did not fix it. I ended up doing a soft reset, and never using Odyssey fixed it right up.

kenomail · 12-07-05, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Yukster

I agree, Odyssey sucks. I made a mistake and ran it once, and after that, from standby, it took about 30 seconds to resume from standby. Disablind Odyssey did not fix it. I ended up doing a soft reset, and never using Odyssey fixed it right up.

UPDATE: I got well over 5 hours of usage last night (all wireless off). At least an hour more time than with WM2003.