I been browsing these board for some time, but have yet to buy a Axim yet. I have been looking at both the x50v and x51v, and they look to be about the same in terms or features and such, but I have seem in some threads that the x51v is less buggy than a x50v upgraded to WM5, is this true? Also I have heard that they dont use the same ROM image, and that the x50v's WM5 ROM image is inferior or more buggy to that of the x51v's ROM image.
I am curious of this because it appears that there is a substantial gap in price between the x51v and the x50v on eBay.
First off the x51v has double the ROM (128 vs 256)
I wouldn't say the x50v's WM5 rom is buggier than x51's but there hasn't been a WM5 update for the x50v yet.
I am curious of this because it appears that there is a substantial gap in price between the x51v and the x50v on eBay.
Price difference mainly due to x51v being a current model, while x50v is old - and also, WM5 does not run as well on x50v as on x51v by a long shot. The x51v is designed for WM5 - it has no backup battery (not needed for WM5) and an "off" mode (not possible with WM2003SE, you would lose all your data if power to RAM turned off more than 30 minutes).
I would either - stick to x50v with WM2003SE, for which it was made, or get an x51v if WM5 is your pleasure. I have used both, and honestly there is very, very little difference in day to day experience.
Price difference mainly due to x51v being a current model, while x50v is old - and also, WM5 does not run as well on x50v as on x51v by a long shot. The x51v is designed for WM5 - it has no backup battery (not needed for WM5) and an "off" mode (not possible with WM2003SE, you would lose all your data if power to RAM turned off more than 30 minutes).
I would either - stick to x50v with WM2003SE, for which it was made, or get an x51v if WM5 is your pleasure. I have used both, and honestly there is very, very little difference in day to day experience.
that is how i was thinking it was, but I was getting mixed signals from this forum.
Originally Posted by stevenator65
Get an x50v w/wm2003se, that's the most stable platform. You can always upgrade later when they get wm5 working correctly.
I wanted to have, or upgrade to, WM5 as soon as I got an Axim. I dont mind doing some tweaking to get all the features working.
stick with the x50v. You always have the chooice then. why are you so keen to have wm5 straight away? ive got an x50v and im in no hurry to upgrade!
got everything working exactly how i want it and dont see the point upgradeing yet cause half the software isnt ready for wm5 and wont work!
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stick with the x50v. You always have the chooice then. why are you so keen to have wm5 straight away? ive got an x50v and im in no hurry to upgrade!
got everything working exactly how i want it and dont see the point upgradeing yet cause half the software isnt ready for wm5 and wont work!
Initially thats what i thought too, but as rsx said, it seems that the x50v dosent work as well with WM5 as a device that is native to WM5 does.
I want WM5 mainly for the improvments that WM5 has over WM2003SE, namely the whole ROM storage thing; but also since it will be the platform that developers will be supporting from now on.
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Actually currently there currently are only two reasons to buy an x50v as far as I can tell:
- You depend on a program that currently only works in PocketPC 2003.
- You require the extended broadcom bluetooth stack. (the microsoft bluetooth stack in WM5 only really supports the serial port and dialup networking profiles, as far as I can tell. Result: forget about using audio gateways, wireless headsets, etc... for now. I can't imagine (though Ive been wrong before about evil large companies) that this situation will remain as it is.
I've read a lot in these forums and while it is true that WM5 is still a little 'beta', I think with A04 most of the evil bugs are gone, and it offers a lot of improvements. The 'small bugs' are annoying, but can be fixed with a little tinkering, after which your system will run quite dependably.
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I've read a lot in these forums and while it is true that WM5 is still a little 'beta', I think with A04 most of the evil bugs are gone, and it offers a lot of improvements. The 'small bugs' are annoying, but can be fixed with a little tinkering, after which your system will run quite dependably.
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1. I do not think that WM5 itself is beta at all. On other systems it works without tinkering. It is the Dell version of WM5 that is at least a little beta. No forum searching or serious tinkering should be required of the OS that comes on a system.
2. I have used both WM5 and WM2003SE extensively at this point. I still do not see any functional or interface improvements in WM5. In fact, there are several areas in which the WM2003SE interface avoids nasty trips through menus. The memory management on WM5 would be valuable except that using good backup software with WM2003SE avoids data loss. Only touted feature of WM5 that seemed useful to me was longer battery life, but I never really saw that benefit.
So what are the 'lot of improvements' you have seen in WM5?
1. I do not think that WM5 itself is beta at all. On other systems it works without tinkering. It is the Dell version of WM5 that is at least a little beta. No forum searching or serious tinkering should be required of the OS that comes on a system.
I admit I use the term 'beta' very loosely. I meant that there are quite a few hiccups and tweaks needed to get it to do what you want. Not something you expect from a mature OS.
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2. I have used both WM5 and WM2003SE extensively at this point. I still do not see any functional or interface improvements in WM5. In fact, there are several areas in which the WM2003SE interface avoids nasty trips through menus. The memory management on WM5 would be valuable except that using good backup software with WM2003SE avoids data loss. Only touted feature of WM5 that seemed useful to me was longer battery life, but I never really saw that benefit.
So what are the 'lot of improvements' you have seen in WM5?
The main improvement of WM5 is indeed the memory management, plus there are a lot of 'under the hood' improvements. I'm no expert but I think that you could consider the PocketPC2003 -> WM5 upgrade in the same league as windows 98 -> XP. At first there were very few obvious improvements, however the design philosophy behind XP it was quite a bit better. Also of course you have newer versions of things like outlook, msn, transcriber etc which should perform better.
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I admit I use the term 'beta' very loosely. I meant that there are quite a few hiccups and tweaks needed to get it to do what you want. Not something you expect from a mature OS.
The main improvement of WM5 is indeed the memory management, plus there are a lot of 'under the hood' improvements. I'm no expert but I think that you could consider the PocketPC2003 -> WM5 upgrade in the same league as windows 98 -> XP. At first there were very few obvious improvements, however the design philosophy behind XP it was quite a bit better. Also of course you have newer versions of things like outlook, msn, transcriber etc which should perform better.
I can agree with your assessments. Plus, the obvious advantage that WM5 is the platform of the future, the one for which future software will be written.
Yeah, I suppose that at some point I will roll my x50v back up to WM5 or, more likely, spring for a new native WM5 model.
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