HELP - Can't setup WPA-AES on my Axim X51v...

Nerve · 12-25-05, 03:18 PM

Can anyone help me figure out how to set-up WPA-AES? I saw a WPA-PSK with suboptions of WEP and TKIP, but I dont see WPA-AES... Where is it?

SB22 · 12-25-05, 11:29 PM

WPA will not work with 802.11b cards. Since the x51v has a "b" card, it won't work with it.

Gigi · 12-25-05, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by SB22

WPA will not work with 802.11b cards. Since the x51v has a "b" card, it won't work with it.

That's not true. I'm using WPA-PSK on my X50v right now.

SB22 · 12-26-05, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Gigi

That's not true. I'm using WPA-PSK on my X50v right now.

I'll take your word for it. I won't own my x51v for a couple more weeks and can't test it for you to be sure. I was going by my experiences with 802.11b laptops. Sorry for supplying false information.

Nerve · 12-26-05, 12:55 AM

Can anyone guide me on setting up WPA-AES? I know there's a guide for setting up wifi on this site, but it doesnt go specifically in setting up WPA-AES... Can someone guide me through it?

dvp95 · 12-26-05, 03:52 AM

For some reason I cant get my x51v to connect using WPA either. Only way it can connect to my router is under Open and Shared. Not sure if its supposed to be able to get on under WPA or not.

12-26-05, 04:23 AM

are u sure the ax supports aes?....i thought aes required a special wireless nic with a built in processor...also...does your wireless router support wpa-aes?

geordie · 12-26-05, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Ecks

are u sure the ax supports aes?....i thought aes required a special wireless nic with a built in processor...also...does your wireless router support wpa-aes?

Not so, we run AES on Xscale, P4 and Athlon processors for a/b/g wireless switches. We use standard NICs and standard radios. If you do decide to use specialist hardware it's between the NIC and the network stack. That's sort of why you can do it in hardware or software, it's just a replacement for the old encryption systems.

Howard2k · 12-26-05, 10:19 AM

There's a performance hit by doing it in software, but it can be done (in theory).

Nerve · 12-26-05, 01:42 PM

Wait so it WPA-PSK equivalent to WPA-AES?

[EDIT] I found from broadbandforums the following information

Quote:

WPA is commonly referred to as WPA-TKIP
WPA2 is commonly referred to as WPA-CCMP(AES).

The difference between WPA and WPA2 is
1. CCMP is an optional method in the WPA requirements.
2. Linksys wireless gateways operate with wireless cards and clients built by other vendors when using WPA-PSK and AES.

Yet still this doesnt help me with figuring out how to set it up on the Axim... There must be someone in this forum that set-up WPA-AES...

Nerve · 12-26-05, 08:05 PM

Can anyone help me?

soulmirror · 12-26-05, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Nerve

Wait so it WPA-PSK equivalent to WPA-AES?

I read through a few of these threads too, and it seems that AES is an alternative to TKIP (which is the standard sort of protocol for setting up the authorization between the host and client). TKIP and AES are both methods of communicating, that then allow you to use a PSK (pre-shared key) to password in. AES is the standard method on WPA2 networks, but TKIP is most common on WPA1 networks.

My network at home is set up so that it is WPA2 by default, but allows devices that cannot handle WPA2 to back down to WPA-1. Under this system, my iBook logs into the network using WPA2 and my Axim using WPA1. My Axim is set for TKIP.

What can you tell us about your network? If it is a WPA2-only network, I do not think the Axim will be able to connect, from what I can tell. If it is not a WPA2-only network, or you have some measure of control over it, can you set it up the way I described above, or would you consider that to be too much of a security risk? WPA1 with TKIP should be adequately secure in most instances... while WPA2 seems to be more secure, it has been stressed by the standards committee, IIRC, that WPA2 is *not* intended to be a beefing up of security over WPA1, primarily, but rather addresses some unique requirements of certain large security customers, while delivering better standardization for everyone else....

Does any of that help? Have you tried setting your AXIM to WPA with TKIP and logging in that way?

Nerve · 12-26-05, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by soulmirror

I read through a few of these threads too, and it seems that AES is an alternative to TKIP (which is the standard sort of protocol for setting up the authorization between the host and client). TKIP and AES are both methods of communicating, that then allow you to use a PSK (pre-shared key) to password in. AES is the standard method on WPA2 networks, but TKIP is most common on WPA1 networks.

My network at home is set up so that it is WPA2 by default, but allows devices that cannot handle WPA2 to back down to WPA-1. Under this system, my iBook logs into the network using WPA2 and my Axim using WPA1. My Axim is set for TKIP.

What can you tell us about your network? If it is a WPA2-only network, I do not think the Axim will be able to connect, from what I can tell. If it is not a WPA2-only network, or you have some measure of control over it, can you set it up the way I described above, or would you consider that to be too much of a security risk? WPA1 with TKIP should be adequately secure in most instances... while WPA2 seems to be more secure, it has been stressed by the standards committee, IIRC, that WPA2 is *not* intended to be a beefing up of security over WPA1, primarily, but rather addresses some unique requirements of certain large security customers, while delivering better standardization for everyone else....

Does any of that help? Have you tried setting your AXIM to WPA with TKIP and logging in that way?

Currently I have a Buffalo 54G Router that has WPA-AES (it does not have WPA2 capabilities).... I dont want to set up as WPA-TKIP because of the fact there's a performance hit when using it as opposed to WPA-AES which is less of a performance hit. I googled WPA-AES and WM5 does support it... But Im scratching my head onto how to configure it...

soulmirror · 12-27-05, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Nerve

Currently I have a Buffalo 54G Router that has WPA-AES (it does not have WPA2 capabilities).... I dont want to set up as WPA-TKIP because of the fact there's a performance hit when using it as opposed to WPA-AES which is less of a performance hit. I googled WPA-AES and WM5 does support it... But Im scratching my head onto how to configure it...

I checked mine again, and my system uses TKIP for WPA1 clients (and AES for WPA2 clients). And that's how my Axim is indeed set up -- for TKIP.

I noticed that there are two entries in the Authentication tab on the Axim for WPA... "WPA" and "WPA-PSK." Maybe using WPA instead of WPA-PSK? Hmmm... I'm not sure. But if you can use TKIP... are you really sure there's a performance cost associated with it? It seems like using WPA with TKIP is your best readily accessible option.

nuropa · 12-27-05, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Nerve

Currently I have a Buffalo 54G Router that has WPA-AES (it does not have WPA2 capabilities).... I dont want to set up as WPA-TKIP because of the fact there's a performance hit when using it as opposed to WPA-AES which is less of a performance hit. I googled WPA-AES and WM5 does support it... But Im scratching my head onto how to configure it...

i think it will need hardware and driver support, which is missing in x51v.