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Old 05-06-06, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Another, maybe the last evidence that ppc is doomed

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http://www.chipzilla.com/pocket.aspx?article=31476

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Old 05-06-06, 05:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Mmm.. since Apple moved to Intel, I guess PocketPC will move to PowerPC... :P
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I don't look at it quite as rosy. With everything that's been reported lately, it just seems like the final nail.

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Originally Posted by blkrde
Read this link:

http://www.chipzilla.com/pocket.aspx?article=31476

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Hmm ... could be. We'll just have to see how it shakes out. I doubt that Pocket PC's as such will completely go away though I admit that our favorite devices may be a niche market. Hope not ... I sure do get a lot of use out of this little box.

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Old 05-06-06, 06:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hmmmm. would you want to be still using pentium I processors? i dont think so.... they have already introduced new processors to replace these..... not to the market, but they are in development.... just look at it as the phasing out of an aged technology..... you have to admit.... ythey have been ouit for a while now....(tech-wise...:))
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I guess the newer processors must be better battery managers primarily because a lot of the converged devices utilize the XScale processors and they require more juice to run the radio 24/7. :cheers: here's to the next gen
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I guess the newer processors must be better battery managers primarily because a lot of the converged devices utilize the XScale processors and they require more juice to run the radio 24/7. :cheers: here's to the next gen
The converged devices will still have the xscale. (or some new tech, according to the link)

Seems to me that this confirms that all pure ppc's will not run Intel, and I doubt if another manufacturer will be running to pick-up the business.

Converged devices are the future, we all know that. I see this as a distinct move away from the PDA market.

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Originally Posted by blkrde
The converged devices will still have the xscale. (or some new tech, according to the link)

Seems to me that this confirms that all pure ppc's will not run Intel, and I doubt if another manufacturer will be running to pick-up the business.

Converged devices are the future, we all know that. I see this as a distinct move away from the PDA market.
Samsung makes PPC processors as well, and I think maybe TI does, too.
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Originally Posted by ArthurS
Samsung makes PPC processors as well, and I think maybe TI does, too.
That may be true, but NO high-end PPC's use those processors. (for good reason)
It's pretty hard to make a current model axim with no chips!

Take the link for what you think its worth, but my bet is the Axim is dead. :realmad: (or will be converged) Combined with the other news and rumors reported lately, to me it seems pretty clear. We will all seen soon....
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Ok what that means is no new development it does not mean that they will stop making the current chips. The x-scale is not going anywhere and as long as companys produce products using it Intel will continue to make them.

What I would like to know is if this means we are not going to see any products that use the Monahans core my understanding is that it is complete and is just waiting for a company to use it. The chip is clocked at 1.25 Ghz but its only about 25% faster then the current 624Mhz chip. The real upgrade was in its ability to decode video and Intel claims it could do HD decoding. But then I would have loved to see Stanwood as well but that got canceled months ago.

One last thought most analysts were saying that the xscale division was going to be cut last year I am surprised it lasted this long. Intel wants to move to selling its LPIA chips. (Low power x86 chips)
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This whole converged device domination is annoying. I hope someone continues to make a good high end, unconverged ppc. Or at least one that is converged but has the same form factor and doesn't cost much more than what an unconverged device would.
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Originally Posted by r@dimus
This whole converged device domination is annoying. I hope someone continues to make a good high end, unconverged ppc. Or at least one that is converged but has the same form factor and doesn't cost much more than what an unconverged device would.

I wholly agree. I simply do not want a PPC phone. I want essentially a pocket computer. The axim is close to that now.
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I'm sure glad I kept my PPC2002 PDA, the last PPC device ever made.

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that's not what i've heard, i heard that the next gen of Xscale do have gprs function intergrated, so hp follow the line and the ppc line was cutted, they directly leds to smartphones...
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I wonder if something like the AMD Geode is possible for PPC, which would bring a huge amount of power to the PPC platform (although useful really only for industrial applications). Geode is probably too big and takes too much power, though. The 624mhz XScale active uses around 925mW for the whole chip (which includes VGA and USB and other IOs I think), but the Geode uses 1.3W typical and 3W peak, and that is probably just for the CPU... However, the Geode clocked at half the speed probably does a lot more work than Xscale, and might use less power (educated but completely unsubstantiated guess).

Of course, changing instruction sets would be a big step for PPC. While there exists an x86 version of PPC, all of the current software out there is for ARM.
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