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Old 07-06-06, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WinXP on X50?

How would one precede with running a cut down version of WinXP (or Win 2000 or even other) on Axim X50?

It is certainly 100% possible, people run *nix kernel with out issues or do other modifications...

Has this been attempted?

Looking forward to an informative, thoughtful and interesting discussion...

Thank you all...
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give it to your research team, and give your project manager enough resources....
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its not posSABLE.. xp is desined to run on xi86 procs... your x50 has an arm proc...... why dont you do a little searching befor posting?


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Old 07-06-06, 02:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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well, *nix are open source, windows versions are not.
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Originally Posted by aximbigfan
its not posSABLE.. xp is desined to run on xi86 procs... your x50 has an arm proc...... why dont you do a little searching befor posting?

Not impossible... I'll do it for $1,000,000 a laptop and a roll of duct tape.
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Old 07-06-06, 02:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aximbigfan
its not posSABLE.. xp is desined to run on xi86 procs... your x50 has an arm proc...... why dont you do a little searching befor posting?


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Excellent point.
This basically means that the CPU instructions that the software (OS) in this case has been compiled in needs to be recompile for ARM CPU (instead of 86)

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give it to your research team, and give your project manager enough resources....
Certainly that would be an easy way - especially financed - Microsoft would likely be able to stir up a solution rather quickly if they wanted to...

One possible way that I can think of is WinPE or MiniPE self booting WinXP based live CDs... but they are compiled for 86 CPUs...

But then of course if one can not have always on feature then there is a question of practicality and usefulness of such a project...

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Originally Posted by InGearX

Certainly that would be an easy way - especially financed - Microsoft would likely be able to stir up a solution rather quickly if they wanted to...

I think Microsoft call it the UMPC.....
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Originally Posted by InGearX
Excellent point.
This basically means that the CPU instructions that the software (OS) in this case has been compiled in needs to be recompile for ARM CPU (instead of 86)


Certainly that would be an easy way - especially financed - Microsoft would likely be able to stir up a solution rather quickly if they wanted to...

One possible way that I can think of is WinPE or MiniPE self booting WinXP based live CDs... but they are compiled for 86 CPUs...

But then of course if one can not have always on feature then there is a question of practicality and usefulness of such a project...
im sorry dude.... but there are many other limitations. it just isnt possable. ok end of stroy.


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Old 07-06-06, 03:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by InGearX
How would one precede with running a cut down version of WinXP (or Win 2000 or even other) on Axim X50?

It is certainly 100% possible, people run *nix kernel with out issues or do other modifications...

Has this been attempted?

Looking forward to an informative, thoughtful and interesting discussion...

Thank you all...
On that note, how do I run FarCry on my x51v? It is certainly 100% possible, people run other games with out issues...

Has this been attempted?

Looking forward to an informative, thoughtful and interesting discussion...

......maybe when Crysis comes out, we can apply the same hacks and play that on our Axims..... :approve:
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Originally Posted by aximbigfan
its not posSABLE.. xp is desined to run on xi86 procs... your x50 has an arm proc......
Well, actually XP is designed to be processor neutral. There have been versions of Windows (XP or ohter versions of NT) running on x86, Itanium, PowerPC, Mips, Alpha, and other processors that I'm forgetting.

So, if you had the source code to XP and a suitable compiler, you could compile most of the code for Xscale. But you'd be a long long way from having a working system.
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Originally Posted by firebush
On that note, how do I run FarCry on my x51v? It is certainly 100% possible, people run other games with out issues...

Has this been attempted?

Looking forward to an informative, thoughtful and interesting discussion...

......maybe when Crysis comes out, we can apply the same hacks and play that on our Axims..... :approve:
Thank you for an excellent post. I'm starting to fall in love with you (and, in case you're homofobic, I'm joking about the love).

What he said is the major issue. 2000 and XP is so bloated that in case you manage to strip it down to get it running on an axim, you'll be much better off with wm5.
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Originally Posted by InGearX
How would one precede with running a cut down version of WinXP (or Win 2000 or even other) on Axim X50?

It is certainly 100% possible, people run *nix kernel with out issues or do other modifications...

Has this been attempted?

Looking forward to an informative, thoughtful and interesting discussion...

Thank you all...
Why would you want to? XP is an excellent desktop O/S but its memory footprint is far too large for a pocket device. The number of services provided by the O/S far exceeds the needs of a pocket device anyway - to say nothing of the complete difference in architecture of the O/S from Pocket PC. They're two different O/S's completely.

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well, windows 98 can be run off of a PSP, maybe thats a better goal to look at? also older versions of the mac os have been run off of the psp!
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Originally Posted by karhill
Well, actually XP is designed to be processor neutral. There have been versions of Windows (XP or ohter versions of NT) running on x86, Itanium, PowerPC, Mips, Alpha, and other processors that I'm forgetting.

So, if you had the source code to XP and a suitable compiler, you could compile most of the code for Xscale. But you'd be a long long way from having a working system.
of course, if you had XP's source I'm sure there could be a bunch of better things you could do with it instead of compiling it for ARM...
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you might like checking this out though... someone already got both Windows 95 and 98 to work on his ppc.
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