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Old 07-16-06, 12:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Number of songs on 2G SD card

I am new to PDA's, and have a X50V that I purchased last October. I am putting MP3 files onto my 2G SD card. The files are generally 128 bit rate, and about 4-5 MB in size. I put about 125 files on the card, but when I try to add more, I get a message that the disk is full. It seems that these files should take up at most 600 MB. I have not put any other files on the SD card. Am I doing something wrong? I expected to be able to put many more files than this. At 2G, an average of 5 MB per song, there should be about a 400 song capacity.

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It could be a problem with the card. I'd reformat the card in the PC.

Are you using a card reader to put the files on? Copying them via Wifi? Using AS?
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Originally Posted by jyfromtx
I am new to PDA's, and have a X50V that I purchased last October. I am putting MP3 files onto my 2G SD card. The files are generally 128 bit rate, and about 4-5 MB in size. I put about 125 files on the card, but when I try to add more, I get a message that the disk is full. It seems that these files should take up at most 600 MB. I have not put any other files on the SD card. Am I doing something wrong? I expected to be able to put many more files than this. At 2G, an average of 5 MB per song, there should be about a 400 song capacity.

Please give me some advice.

Thanks.
How are you adding the MP3 files to the card? It is generally faster and easier to use a USB card reader than any software or sync method.
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don't use mp3 use wma a wma @ 64kbps is equivalent to an mp3 @ 192kbps and u should be able to put up to about 1000 songs on that sd card.
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I have my X50 in the cradle, connected to my PC via USB. From folders on my computer, I'm copying and pasting into the SD folder that comes up when I click on the pocket pc icon when I click on my computer, and then c: drive. When I use my file explorer on the X50V, it lists the files and size. It lists the MP3 files at most 5 MB. Should this still allow about 400 songs? @g/5 mb = 400? I'm only getting 125. Can I convert the MP3 files to wma w/ the windows media player program?
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Originally Posted by jyfromtx
I have my X50 in the cradle, connected to my PC via USB. From folders on my computer, I'm copying and pasting into the SD folder that comes up when I click on the pocket pc icon when I click on my computer, and then c: drive. When I use my file explorer on the X50V, it lists the files and size. It lists the MP3 files at most 5 MB. Should this still allow about 400 songs? @g/5 mb = 400? I'm only getting 125. Can I convert the MP3 files to wma w/ the windows media player program?
Get a card reader Ativesync is slow and cubersome to transfer that many files

Be sure your placeing the files on a directory on the SDcard and not the root of the card other wise it wont work because of Fat limitations

use file explorer and create a directory

and BTW dont reformat your card unless you know how to do it do a search first here
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Old 07-16-06, 02:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yeah, i would go with a card reader. i have about 550 songs on mine and have about 115 mb left.... try reformatting
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I choose WMA @ 96 bitrate. I can't tell the difference between a CD and this file. I'm not sure you should convert your MP3's to WMA, that will be double compression. But if you have the original CD, give it a try.
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Old 07-16-06, 02:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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may I suggest ogg vorbis files ?

Ogg 112k better than mp3 160k & WMA128k, plus the file was smaller at moderate quality.

I manage to put 500 ogg 112k+96k for 1Gb

btw, you can use media monkey (freeware) for multi format conversion
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Originally Posted by Eric12341
don't use mp3 use wma a wma @ 64kbps is equivalent to an mp3 @ 192kbps and u should be able to put up to about 1000 songs on that sd card.

That's not true. Although WMA IS a better format than MP3, results show that it's not better by that sort of margin.

You'd find that 128Kb/s or 160Kb/s WMA should be as good as 192Kb/s MP3.
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Old 07-16-06, 03:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yeah... i have all my files at 128k MP3 and they are fine.... nic esize... no complaints
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The original problem may be related to the number of files. There is a limit to how many can be held in a single directory and be read by the PPC. I actually thought the limit was 256 but it may be less. The 'disk full' is a typical response in this situation.

If copying with a card reader still doesn't let you see the files, try setting up another folder to move some of the fles into.
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Where on the disk are you putting them? If you are putting them in the root there is a definite limitation to the numbers. If you put them in a subdirectory, no limit. I personally put almost 2G worth of MP3's on my card regularly.
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Originally Posted by Lizard_Weasel
Where on the disk are you putting them? If you are putting them in the root there is a definite limitation to the numbers. If you put them in a subdirectory, no limit. I personally put almost 2G worth of MP3's on my card regularly.
That's the same with me. There is a limit to how many folders/files you can have in a single directory.
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Great point - the limit in the root is 512 I think. But it will be substantially less if you are using long file names (more than the standard 8.3). And these days everyone does :)
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