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Old 08-20-06, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hmm Battery meter does not recognize a battery being swap

My x50v is running on wm5. I have 2 batteries that I swap around when one goes flat. What happen is that the battery meter (The one under Settings ) does not seems to update when a charged battery is inserted and the flat one taken out. The meter somehow gets stuck at the old battery percentage. It does not show the new battery percentage. The only way to over come this problem is to insert the PDA into the docking station. After awhile (say 10 mins), the orange light will turn green.

At first I though my battery was not charged. But I make sure it is freshly charged before I change the battery. One battery is 1 year olds, the other is less than 3 months, both bought from dell.

This really fustrate me. What is the point to get 2 batteries when it has to sit in the cradle to 'reset' the stupid battery meter everytime? Does anyone has the same problem as me? Could it be the way I swap my battery is wrong. I always get this message when I swap my battery: "Press this to rest to factory setting or that to cancel. .............".I really need some answers, FAST!!! It driving me nuts!
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Old 08-20-06, 08:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Since I keep regular backups (spb or sprite), and a soft reset didn't help, I would probably bite the bullet, backup what I could and then do a hard reset. If after a hard reset (with no software loaded into your axim) your problem remains, then you know it isn't an interprogram incompatibilty issue and you can proceed from there. If your problem continues, then you know its something in the rom or hardware related.
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Most likely if the problem persists after a hard reset, I would suspect hardware first then rom. If the problem goes away I would suspect a program incompatibility first and then software degradation.

If the problem goes away, there is a very slim chance that you can reboot your backup that you saved moments ago and the problem will remain gone. Most likely the latest backup have also backed up the problem.

If you don't have a backup that is error free, then you can load your programs back into the newly hard reset axim one at a time, watching closely to see if the problem crops up after each program--a pain, I agree.

You can look for simple hardware fixes by checking how well the battery cover fits, borrowing a friends battery (or buying a third one) and seeing how that goes. Or measuring what the batteries are putting out.
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Pre-hard reset ideas are long shots, but you might also test to see if its the battery program itself. I just downloaded freeware batti--highly recommended. (Sorry no link). Again that's doubtful but worth a try. Also, you could try uninstalling the last downloaded program in the (again faint) hope that the program incompatibilty lies there.

My last resort would be the newest rom upgrade.

That's about all the ideas I have.
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Originally Posted by c1oudrs
Pre-hard reset ideas are long shots, but you might also test to see if its the battery program itself. I just downloaded freeware batti--highly recommended. (Sorry no link). Again that's doubtful but worth a try. Also, you could try uninstalling the last downloaded program in the (again faint) hope that the program incompatibilty lies there.

My last resort would be the newest rom upgrade.

That's about all the ideas I have.
I tried Hard Reset. Still the same. So I though it was wm5's problem. I rolled back to wm2003 SE A05 ROM. Guess what? Still the same old story. I still need to put PDA back to the cradle before it realises, "Oh! the battery is actually FULL! I should update the DAMN meter". Goodness! The only conclusion I could draw is something wrong with the Hardware. But seriously, what could be wrong? :hide:
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I have got a very similar problem - pasted in from my thread:

Having suffered from poor battery life post A12 and seeing what others had done, I did my second hard re-set. Disaster!

If I take my X51v off charge and leave it off, it will not switch on after about 5 mins. Put it on charge, it will switch on but reports the battery at less than 10%. It then comes up to full charge in a couple of minutes.

I have tried this with 2 batteries – both perform the same. Some fault in the battery meter software?

Only recently installed software is SpB backup ( to ease the hard re-set work) but I cannot imagine that is doing it – this does not coincide with any scheduled backups.

Only other 'new' thing I have done recently is use if for a 6 hour jouney as a sat nav in a Tom Tom moulded mount - it did get rather warm!

Time to give Dell a call!!
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Originally Posted by Furby
I have got a very similar problem - pasted in from my thread:

Having suffered from poor battery life post A12 and seeing what others had done, I did my second hard re-set. Disaster!

If I take my X51v off charge and leave it off, it will not switch on after about 5 mins. Put it on charge, it will switch on but reports the battery at less than 10%. It then comes up to full charge in a couple of minutes.

I have tried this with 2 batteries – both perform the same. Some fault in the battery meter software?

Only recently installed software is SpB backup ( to ease the hard re-set work) but I cannot imagine that is doing it – this does not coincide with any scheduled backups.

Only other 'new' thing I have done recently is use if for a 6 hour jouney as a sat nav in a Tom Tom moulded mount - it did get rather warm!

Time to give Dell a call!!
Goodness I am not alone. You know what, I remember not that distance past, I don't use to have this problem. Could It be the A05 rom? does anyone using A05 rom have similar problem like me?
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I have a X51V thats been updated to ROM A12. I also exchange batteries at the end of every day. I have not hac the issue you mention. I do get a soft reset every time I exchange the batteries though, but that is what is suppose to happen.
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I always power off my x51v when I change my battery, and at the moment, it's all ok.
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My goodness, Nici, you're going through hell with the hard resets and rollback to Windows Mobile 2003. It's not worth it. When you put in a fresh battery, just feel assured that you have another couple of hours of power and relax. When you get home and recharge and resync, your batteries will be fresh again for another day of Pocket Computing. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Nici - or anyone else!

Did you ever get an answer to this issue? I have the same problem, and its very annoying.

My problem was compounded by the fact that I didn't notice the battery go flat so the PDA put itself into a shutdown mode (it kindly gave me a 10 sec warning during which i wasn't able to do anything but watch). I instantly swapped for a new battery and rebooted but the PDA still thinks the battery has zero charge so would not come out of shutdown mode! Very annoying!

In the short term I just need to swap batteries when the old one is at c.10% and then accept I have no idea how long the new battery will last for, but I need a solution to this as I need to be able to run my PDA in the field for over 24 hours and was planning on doing it via swapping batteries, but if I don't know how discharged the 2nd battery is, I'm stuck!

Any ideas?

ROM upgrade maybe? I'm on ROM AO4, WM2003se on a X50v it it helps?

thanks

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