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Old 12-03-06, 09:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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General useage issues???? (long rant)

When I started shopping for a gadget the primary purpose was 'quick' access to data.

I work in enterprise applications support, and with very short SLAs it's nice to have instant access to contacts, passwords etc. etc.

I really wanted a Nokia tablet (800x480!) ..but after hearing how slow they were I avoided that option as I also wanted to have wifi, it could give me the opportunity to do some support while away and in a jam (in hindsight, if I'd realized just how beta the few secure connectivity apps are this would have never been an asset). MP3s, and a media player were just added bonuses.

so I settled on the Axim, I was also interested in a couple more expensive models but they didn't seem to have the market support in Canada.

The Axim is definitely the feature king for the price but ever since I first turned it on, it's felt like a beta product. Even with an a12 upgrade and barely any other software installed it's slow, very slow, it usually take 30 seconds to boot up, sometime minutes before it's useable, every click to open a program/do task/do whatever is followed by slow lagginess.

Syncing with Outlook was a PITA, ..but first I had to install the commercial version of outlook, then after days of getting nonsense errors, one day it just finally sync'd. ...and this ActiveSync, why can't it be nicely turned off on the PC, whenever I remove by BT dongle AS just won't stop prompting me, how annoying, and why do apps stay running on the Axim. Why does my Axim always turns itself on when I plug it into the base, why can't it just sit their and charge w/o turning on.

can't find good wifi software....
software is constantly crashing....
I once wrote a new webpage using a free editor while my son was in his karate class, at the end of the class I went to save my work, the editor crashed and my page was gone....

...anyways, during a corporate clean out, I inherited a couple of older palms, both colour, both with SD slots, the newer one a Tungsten, has a very nice screen and can play MP3s. After using the Tungsten for a few days I am so impressed, it's so refined, everything is very fast and very easy, I am now using it to manage contacts, todo's and as an MP3s player while my Axim is shelved.

The Tungsten is just going to tie me over as a basic PDA until the next generation products come out that can do everything the Axim can do and more as refined as my old Palm, am I asking too much?

Sorry Axim, to ebay you go, I have very little time and I've wasted way too much of it on you, suppose to save time not the other way around.

Frustrated

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Complaining that you had to install outlook, so that you could sync to outlook is a bit harsh... it sounds like most of your other issues are with the win mobile platform. If you like palm then fine, it's just that wm works differently
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The 30 sec recovery after cold reset is about normal.

For everything else, sounds like you need a hard reset. I've had similar problems and HR fixed them very efficiently. If you play with lots of different programs / settings they mess up the system & need to be cleaned up.

I've had an iPaq 2215 (WM2003) for 2+ years and it was waaaaay better than the Palm PDA I've had before. Fast too. WM5 is somewhat slower in some tasks (e.g. opening Pocket Informant takes longer with lots of tasks & appointments) but not that much slower. I strongly suggest you try to do a HR and reinstall your apps afterwards - only the ones you're actually using. See if that improves performance.

Palm is extremely limited in many areas, but it's fast and simple in its basic tasks. If Palm works for you then you really have no reason to buy a WM device. I am doing a lot of planning / project management style work and Palm just wouldn't cut it.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for new models. The market seems to be shrinking rapidly, the "traditional" PDAs giving way to the converged devices that are both PDA and cell phone (and suck in both areas).

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Old 12-03-06, 11:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree with the above posters. The x51v is an excellent platform. Although I don't need it for truly instantaneous access, it is the best PPC I owned so far. I have been using PPCs since 1997 and only recently migrated to the Dell from my iPaq 2215. With the additional memory, speedier processor, wifi and BT, I am quite impressed. It took me several days to configure it to my liking as well as work out the kinks. However, it is the most stable of PPCs I've owned.

As others have suggested, I would do a hard reset and a clean install of you programs. It does wonders. In fact, over the years, I have learned that periodic hard resets clearly help the platform. Think of it as an oil change and tune up for your PPC. It also helps to have backups of a stable setup. Such tune ups only take a few minutes to do.
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neil85ae86 - Appreciate your message.

I have owned quite a few PDA's over the years.
I skipped my Tungsten (first version) after a few months - didn't work as anticipated.
But for a quick and simple data access I still use my Palm Vx.

Now I use my Axim where I need access to several programs simultaneously (multitask).
My X51v is somewhat slower than the X50 or X3i.

I've a made few tests and found some correlation between the startup time and the number of Today plugins - of course.

So if you still want an Axim my conclusion is:
Get a X50v with 2k3se and be carefull with the Today plugins and the number of .lnk files in the Startup folder.

I'm still considering to return my new X51v if I just could get hold of a new X50v.

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Originally Posted by Zaniax
my conclusion is:
Get a X50v with 2k3se and be careful with the Today plugins and the number of .lnk files in the Startup folder.
I am quite pleased with my X50V running WM2K3.2 (AKA WM2003SE) and I migrated to it from a Palm Tungsten T3.
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Thanks for the quote, AKAJohnDoe -
Had to use skweezer.net to read your link on my Ax

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Originally Posted by neil85ae86
When I started shopping for a gadget the primary purpose was 'quick' access to data.

I work in enterprise applications support, and with very short SLAs it's nice to have instant access to contacts, passwords etc. etc.

I really wanted a Nokia tablet (800x480!) ..but after hearing how slow they were I avoided that option as I also wanted to have wifi, it could give me the opportunity to do some support while away and in a jam (in hindsight, if I'd realized just how beta the few secure connectivity apps are this would have never been an asset). MP3s, and a media player were just added bonuses.

so I settled on the Axim, I was also interested in a couple more expensive models but they didn't seem to have the market support in Canada.

The Axim is definitely the feature king for the price but ever since I first turned it on, it's felt like a beta product. Even with an a12 upgrade and barely any other software installed it's slow, very slow, it usually take 30 seconds to boot up, sometime minutes before it's useable, every click to open a program/do task/do whatever is followed by slow lagginess.

Syncing with Outlook was a PITA, ..but first I had to install the commercial version of outlook, then after days of getting nonsense errors, one day it just finally sync'd. ...and this ActiveSync, why can't it be nicely turned off on the PC, whenever I remove by BT dongle AS just won't stop prompting me, how annoying, and why do apps stay running on the Axim. Why does my Axim always turns itself on when I plug it into the base, why can't it just sit their and charge w/o turning on.

can't find good wifi software....
software is constantly crashing....
I once wrote a new webpage using a free editor while my son was in his karate class, at the end of the class I went to save my work, the editor crashed and my page was gone....

...anyways, during a corporate clean out, I inherited a couple of older palms, both colour, both with SD slots, the newer one a Tungsten, has a very nice screen and can play MP3s. After using the Tungsten for a few days I am so impressed, it's so refined, everything is very fast and very easy, I am now using it to manage contacts, todo's and as an MP3s player while my Axim is shelved.

The Tungsten is just going to tie me over as a basic PDA until the next generation products come out that can do everything the Axim can do and more as refined as my old Palm, am I asking too much?

Sorry Axim, to ebay you go, I have very little time and I've wasted way too much of it on you, suppose to save time not the other way around.

Frustrated

Neil

nice job choosing palm over ppc u should goto a palm fansite now. keep in mind this is AXIMSITE!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Eric12341
nice job choosing palm over ppc u should goto a palm fansite now. keep in mind this is AXIMSITE!!!!!!!!
You can aways count on Eric12341

IMHO: this thread is very relevant -
Axim critics are welcome.
The Axims are good, but not perfect.
Of all, you should know, Eric12341

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nice job choosing palm over ppc u should goto a palm fansite now. keep in mind this is AXIMSITE!!!!!!!!
And, as expected from Eric12341... a useless post that missed the point. :D

Anyways, they're completely different platforms - WM is, for one, being actively developed. For another, they've bounded ahead in usability over the years, stealing from Palm and other previous OSes in order to improve the system as a whole. Now, if Palm had kept up and released Garnet and every other OS upgrade they'd promised over the years, then we'd probably be in better shape as a market as there'd be more competition to spur Microsoft on into improving the system rather than going forth with incremental changes... :D

Since they haven't, however, Microsoft's started eating Palm's lunch.
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You got a very good point there, Haesslich !

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