Bug exists with AximsiteWirelessPower.cab

[cmagdanz]

Having recently upgraded my x50v to WM5A02, I was excited to learn the default MS BT stack not only supports high-quality audio without hacking, it also supports the A2DP features of track advance/reverse control from my Plantronics 590. Sadly, several days later 590 control reverted to volume only.

Wondering why . . . . . it dawned on me I had decided to install AximsiteWirelessPower.cab after I had 590/A2DP working. I just finished uninstalling AximsiteWirelessPower (manually from within Windows), and A2DP control returned!!

(Note: The only A2DP feature now missing is the ability to unpause a song. I can pause it from my 590, but I must press play on the axim to resume. = minor inconvenience.)

By the way, I can simultaneously pair the 590 with both my RAZR and axim. Making or receiving a phone call interupts playback; when I hang up the phone, music play resumes. = sweet.

[wrench]

That would explain why my new iTech R35 playback controls don't work. I'll try uninstalling the AximWirelessPower app. and see if the playback controls will work. I'll report back.

[wrench]

OK, I just completed some testing on my X51V A12, w/ the 0.5 stack. It turns out even aximsitewirelesspower didn't get my iTech Clip R35 bluetooth headset's playback controls working. That was on GSPlayer and TCPMP though. It does work on WMP, which I never use. I reinstalled the aximsitewirelesspower program and the controls still work on WMP, and still don't on GSPlayer and TCPMP.

So I don't think there is a problem with the program, at least with my configuration. And of course, MY question is if anyone knows a way to get the playback controls working with GSPlayer (or even TCPMP)?

tcpmp does not support those controls with wm5.

[edge777]

OK, I just completed some testing on my X51V A12, w/ the 0.5 stack. It turns out even aximsitewirelesspower didn't get my iTech Clip R35 bluetooth headset's playback controls working. That was on GSPlayer and TCPMP though. It does work on WMP, which I never use. I reinstalled the aximsitewirelesspower program and the controls still work on WMP, and still don't on GSPlayer and TCPMP.

So I don't think there is a problem with the program, at least with my configuration. And of course, MY question is if anyone knows a way to get the playback controls working with GSPlayer (or even TCPMP)?

You sound like you're using the Widcomm BT stack - I believe the original poster is using the built-in MS stack.

[mikelspikel]

Having recently upgraded my x50v to WM5A02, I was excited to learn the default MS BT stack not only supports high-quality audio without hacking, it also supports the A2DP features of track advance/reverse control from my Plantronics 590. Sadly, several days later 590 control reverted to volume only.

Wondering why . . . . . it dawned on me I had decided to install AximsiteWirelessPower.cab after I had 590/A2DP working. I just finished uninstalling AximsiteWirelessPower (manually from within Windows), and A2DP control returned!!

(Note: The only A2DP feature now missing is the ability to unpause a song. I can pause it from my 590, but I must press play on the axim to resume. = minor inconvenience.)

By the way, I can simultaneously pair the 590 with both my RAZR and axim. Making or receiving a phone call interupts playback; when I hang up the phone, music play resumes. = sweet.

Humm, this sounds very strange to me. Did you try to start bluetooth with the standard tray icon when you installed WirelessPower? Maybe it's initializing BT incorrectly. What I don't find possible is installing the cab makes AVRCP not work. Maybe WirelessPower turns BT ON in a somewhat different way, but turning ON from the tray icon should work exactly the same with WirelessPower installed. Could you make this test if you haven't done it already?

[cmagdanz]

Humm, this sounds very strange to me. Did you try to start bluetooth with the standard tray icon when you installed WirelessPower? Maybe it's initializing BT incorrectly. What I don't find possible is installing the cab makes AVRCP not work. Maybe WirelessPower turns BT ON in a somewhat different way, but turning ON from the tray icon should work exactly the same with WirelessPower installed. Could you make this test if you haven't done it already?

I did not pay attention to exactly how I was launching BT when WP was installed. I know I used WP sometimes and the tray icon sometimes. I'll reinstall WP, and test it out so I can be more scientific (and therefore more helpful) with my comments. Thanks for the suggestion.

[cmagdanz]

It appears my earlier conclusion of a bug in AximsiteWirelessPower was incorrect. At mikelspikel's suggestion, I did organized testing (reported in detail below), and AWP now seems to be working just fine. I don't now know what the issue could have been before.

Thank you, mikelspikel for requesting I do a full test to verify my claim, which turned out to be incorrect. I apologize, and will work at being more careful before making such claims in the future.

Also, thank you mikelspikel for using the term AVRCP, which prompted me to read up on A2DP and AVRCP more. I'm still not sure I understand them well, but at least now I have a better idea than before.

Here is a complete log of the testing I did if anyone cares to read it all:

BlueTooth A2DP/AVRCP testing - written in real time as testing proceeded.
Given:
- x50v WM5A02 ("axim")
- Native Microsoft BT Stack (no tweaks/hacks, etc.)
- Windows Media Player 10 Mobile V10.2 Build 14957 ("WMP")
- CorePlayer v1.0.4 build 716 for ARM ("CP")
- (see "View MyPDA" for additional info)

STEP 1 (AximsiteWirelessPower.cab ("AWP") is not installed):
a) Soft Reset (from MagicButton menu (typical unless noted otherwise)
b) Launch BT from tray icon and connect Plantronics590
c) Launch WMP and play WMA music stored in Library on SD
d) RESULT: 590 has control of volume, track advance, track retreat, and track pause. 590 controls will not restart song play. ("full control")

STEP 2 (AWP.cab is not installed):
a) Close WMP, turn off 590, turn off BT from tray icon, Reset axim
b) Launch BT from tray icon and connect Plantronics590
c) Launch CP and play WMA music stored on SD (same tracks as Step 1 but using PlayList)
d) RESULT: 590 has control only of volume. (590 does not have full control.)

STEP 3:
a) Close CP, turn off 590, turn off BT from tray icon, Reset axim
b) Run AWP.cab from SD card (using Total Commander "TC")
c) Install "Aximsite WirelessX51" to "Device"= successful


STEP 4:
a) Reset
b) Launch BT from tray icon and connect Plantronics590 (x50v response time is slower than during previous steps - battery is low, though - plugged into AC power - I started testing with a partially charged battery)
c) Launch WMP and play WMA music stored in Library on SD
d) RESULT: 590 has full control.

STEP 5:
a) Close WMP, turn off 590, turn off BT from tray icon, Reset axim
b) Launch "WirelessPowerConfig.exe" (from TC) (the system retained my old settings from previous installation as follows: Control WiFi, Control Bluetooth, Icons show desired state. Direct, One keypress toggles WiFi, 1000 Milliseconds. Blue, Grey, Green, Grey
c) Launch "WirelessPower.exe" (TC), connect 590
d) Launch WMP and play WMA music stored in LIbrary on SD
e) SURPRISE RESULT IS SAME AS STEP 2 (CONTRARY TO REPORT ON ORIGINAL POST): 590 has full control.

STEP 6:
a) Using AWP (Launched from button 6), shut off bluetooth
b) Using AWP, turn on WiFi, launch IE, and read news for a few minutes.
c) Close IE. Using AWP, turn off WiFi.
d) Using tray icon, turn on BT, and connect 590
e) launch WMP and play WMA music stored in Library on SD
f) RESULT: 590 still has "full" control!
g) shut down WMP, turn off BT from AWP, turn off 590

Step 7 (Now I'm really wondering what's up because everything with AWP seems to be working fine now when I had thought it wasn't before I made my original post):
a) reset
b) Turn on BT from tray icon, connect 590, Launch WMA, play music
c) RESULT: 590 still has full control
d) turn off 590, turn off BT from tray icon, (sound plays from axim), close WMP
e) turn on BT from AWP, turn on 590, 590 connects
f) Launch WMP and play music.
g) RESULT: 590 still has full control.

[mikelspikel]

Humm! I'm afraid I missed this last post. I've just noticed it. I'm glad AWP is working OK. :)

CorePlayer doesn't support AVRCP at all - that's why you can only control volume in it. The volume control on A2DP headphones in my experience only controls the headphone volume, but the device volume - this of behavior I've seen with the Moto HT820, the Sony BT30Q, and the Jabra headphones.

It's not the stack it WirelessPower - it's the player. That's why WMP works.

[cmagdanz]

On my x50v/WM2003SE-a05, Coreplayer (v1.0.4 B716 for ARM) supports AVRCP wonderfully with Plantronics 590. Just don't change the default hotkeys. I did that and temporarily lost AVRCP. So I reinstalled Coreplayer, and AVRCP is back and working great.

I've found it supports A2DP fine, but not AVRCP - the buttons do nothing, even with the default hotkeys.

[cmagdanz]

Maybe I'm using incorrect terminology. To me AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile) means that I have control of volume, track movement, pause/play from my BT headset. I have all that with CorePlayer and Plantronics 590.

Before installing CorePlayer, I installed PDA2K_BroadcomCorp_BTUpdate.cab, which adds High Quality Audio Setup (HQAS) capabilities (i.e., stereo) to the default BT stack in WM2003SE. I think HQAS provides AADP (aka A2DP) = Advanced Audio Distribution Profile.

It may work with the x50v; I KNOW it doesn't work with the x51v with either the Widcomm stack by MikeSpikel or the default MS BT stack; I've tried repeatedly, without mucking about with the settings. It DOES work with TCPMP on the hx2000 series running WM5 on HP machines, which uses the built-in Broadcomm/Widcomm stack... but barely. Back/Forward works, ditto play. Volume control on the Plantronics 590A only controls onboard (headphone) volume; it doesn't affect that on the player at all (which is a good thing, IMO).

i installed the ver 1.0.1 of awp

Now i have a problem i see both the original wifi icon and the newer one. How do i get rid of the other one.

ALso with the newer icon, i don't think it's drawn out too well.

But i think it's because of the space but then again i can be wrong.