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Old 01-20-07, 10:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Odyssey and 128 bit Wep

Hello everyone...I just recieved a new x51v A12 and am trying to get it to login to the wireless network in my apartment. I was using Odyssey and when I went to enter the network key, an error message came up saying that keys weren't longer than 13 characters . I have 128 bit WEP encryption which gives me a 26 character key. Anyone know what I'm missing in Odyssey that it won't let me do that? Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-21-07, 05:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think this is a difference between ASCII characters and hexadecimal digits. You can get 26 in Hex but only 13 in ASCII.

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Here is a link to the Odyssey Client manual (in .pdf format):
download.juniper.net/software/aaa_802/public/oac/docs/odycppc20man.pdf

And here is a link to a great Axim wifi guide:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=86191
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I wouldn't have bothered with Odyssey. It tends to hog a lot of memory and you shouldn't need it if you aren't accessing a network with enterprise level security.

That said, mobilemaniac is right about the hexidecimal vs. ascii. A google search will link you to the conversion between the two.
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Old 01-21-07, 06:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Being a recently new X51V owner myself, this was one of the 1st differences between WM2003 and WM5 wifi setups.

WM5 (Dell WLAN utility) requires the key to be entered in ASCII [13chars] versus HEX [26] chars with WM2003.

The post above is correct in saying to use the Dell WLAN utiliy, not Odessy configuring connections with no certification needed, only WEP or WPA.

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Thanks for all of your help. I didn't see that guide before. It was very helpful. I had a lot of trouble with wireless on 2003se which is why i went to Odyssey first. After reading the guide I set power save to Disable and switched my router from G only to B+G and I'm up and running. Thanks again! :approve:
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Originally Posted by KPDUTY
Being a recently new X51V owner myself, this was one of the 1st differences between WM2003 and WM5 wifi setups.

WM5 (Dell WLAN utility) requires the key to be entered in ASCII [13chars] versus HEX [26] chars with WM2003.
No it doesn't. I use the hex key in the WLAN on my X51v (10 characters using 64-bit WEP).

sargetalon, good to hear you are connected.
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EDIT: Never mind. Your correct. I did enter in HEX not ASCII , just like on my X5. I'm not sure what I was thinking.

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No it doesn't. I use the hex key in the WLAN on my X51v (10 characters using 64-bit WEP).

sargetalon, good to hear you are connected.

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Originally Posted by KPDUTY
For 128bit WEP you can you or can't you enter in HEX format?

(I was not able to. Maybe I missed something)
I added the point in my last post that I used 64-bit because I wasn't sure about 128 but, I just tried it - yes you can use hex (26-charcaters) for 128-bit in WM5.
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Originally Posted by ikehiker
I wouldn't have bothered with Odyssey. It tends to hog a lot of memory and you shouldn't need it if you aren't accessing a network with enterprise level security.

That said, mobilemaniac is right about the hexidecimal vs. ascii. A google search will link you to the conversion between the two.
I have no problems getting my X51v to connect at home or in places I frequent that offer free Wifi.

However, my office has 5 APs, all of them are 3Com B/G or A/B/G units. All 5 have the same SSID.

My Axim seems to forget the 128-bit WEP key every time I try to connect. I am begining to think it is related to the fact that these 5 APs share the same SSID but have unique MAC addresses.

This wan't a problem before I got the X51v as I could always cut & paste the key when I used WM2003SE. But WM5 requires you to re-enter the key each time, which makes my situation aggrivating.

Do you know if I am right in that the Axim records the WEP key in relation to a MAC address? Then each time I access the same SSID but with a different MAC address, the WEP key is requested again.

If so, then I fear I am doomed to using the OD client, which has worked before. I just hate using the extra memory, and how the OD client seems to increase the time it takes for the Axim to be ready to use after turning it on.

Any thoughts or comments?

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I cannot say for sure that is the case but it certainly seems a possible explanation of what you are seeing.

I can also say that every PPC I’ve used in an area that has any type of interference has had problems connecting. If you have 5 APs, it means at least two of them are operating on channels that are the same or overlap some of the others and this could be causing the problem, too.
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